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Post by proratman on Jun 13, 2012 20:15:50 GMT -5
I am looking to buy a small lightweight canoe for rat trapping in small swamps and deadwaters. Any suggestions?
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Post by walleyed on Jun 13, 2012 20:35:46 GMT -5
Coleman makes 14 & 16 foot models that are very reasonable and light.
They are easy on the pocket as well.
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Post by proratman on Jun 13, 2012 20:50:18 GMT -5
Thanks Walleyed. Anyone else have any suggestions?
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Post by trappermac on Jun 14, 2012 5:30:08 GMT -5
Old Town makes the "Pack" canoe, a nice little 12 ft'er. Radisson also makes a nice 12 ft'er that is quite versatile. With canoes you get what you pay for....you want lightweight it'll cost you more. Colemans are cheap but they are polyethylene which is heavy. I know their 15 ft model weighs 74 lbs, which is a barge. Al depends on whether you will have to carry or not.
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Post by brokestove on Jun 14, 2012 7:46:43 GMT -5
I have a 12 ft alum canoe for sale very nice 300.oo it wll float in less a 3 inches of water.great canoe.let me know if you are interested.
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Post by Adirondack-Jim on Jun 14, 2012 7:47:55 GMT -5
The trade off of large/heavy vs shorter/lighter shows up in how much gear you can safely transport and stability. I recently purchased a ten footer which is a breeze to transport and carry but it's a big difference in stability vs my 16' heavy Lincoln. If you're leaning towards a shorter and lighter canoe it would be worth your time to find one to try out before a purchase to judge the stability/safety issues when when out alone in colder trapping weather.
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Post by otter on Jun 14, 2012 19:35:22 GMT -5
14' Oldtown Osprey..54lbs..It rocks..
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Post by hunt6246 on Jun 14, 2012 20:19:19 GMT -5
I have an Old Town 'Pack' canoe and it's a bit tippy if you sit on the seat. Heavy boots won't fit under the seat if you try to kneel on the floor as you should be doing anyway. For fly fishing, I use a double ended paddle and sit on the floor. I have many hours, days, weeks etc. in a canoe and wouldn't recommend it for trapping. Also, there's no additional floatation in the Old Towns. I wouldn't recommend trying to use one of them to keep me up if I were to swamp. We used to have a two seat 13 ft Grumman (lightweight model 35#) that was much more stable. The lightweight model may be hard to find and was a bit thin skinned. They're also pricy if you can find one. It had foam floatation covered by an aluminum bulkhead in each end and would float like a cork if swamped. If you could find a 13 footer in standard weight, it might be pretty good.
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Post by garyp on Jun 14, 2012 23:42:00 GMT -5
I did a lot of research on stably and light weight canoes . Old town (stillwater) is the one i bought 12' long and 41'' wide and about 50 lbs i found one on cragslist for $300, new there like $1,200 also bass pro has aRogue river 14' for $350 new, width is 42'' and weight 76 lbs You have time before the seasons gets here keep checking cragslist for a (stillwater canoe)
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Post by austinp on Jun 15, 2012 5:18:05 GMT -5
also bass pro has aRogue river 14' for $350 new, width is 42'' and weight 76 lbs RogueRiver 14' has hauled 1,000s of muskrats and literally tons of gear around for me the past nine seasons and still going strong Attachments:
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Post by E.Reynolds on Jun 15, 2012 17:28:01 GMT -5
I was lets say...."in the same boat", but decided to make my own raft. PT lumber and either marine foam board or capped PCV pipe, havent decided yet. I am only talking a 4 or 5 foot by 10 footer, strapped to an old atv axle for transport. trap a pond for a week then move.
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Post by milkie62 on Jun 16, 2012 21:50:07 GMT -5
I trapped out of a 12' Jon boat with a "disabled" trapper here and it seemed fine.Not very deep water but mucky.Was not tippy when setting a trap.
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Post by pauljohnson on Jun 17, 2012 7:36:37 GMT -5
I bought a fiberglas canoe, she is old and ugly. Price was $100.00. At that price I drag it on the ground, it bangs against rocks and logs, dragged over beaver dams, and never gets a bath. At 14', she is stable and floats well enough. Just what a trapper wants.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2012 8:55:30 GMT -5
The trade off of large/heavy vs shorter/lighter shows up in how much gear you can safely transport and stability. I recently purchased a ten footer which is a breeze to transport and carry but it's a big difference in stability vs my 16' heavy Lincoln. If you're leaning towards a shorter and lighter canoe it would be worth your time to find one to try out before a purchase to judge the stability/safety issues when when out alone in colder trapping weather. Jim, what is the make/model of your 10 footer?
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Post by Adirondack-Jim on Jun 18, 2012 7:09:33 GMT -5
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Post by proratman on Jun 18, 2012 10:35:48 GMT -5
Thanks for all the replies
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Post by E.Reynolds on Jun 18, 2012 19:41:13 GMT -5
Raft
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Post by oldeman on Jun 18, 2012 19:55:13 GMT -5
If you are going to put it in and out several times a day you will probably not want anything over about 40 lbs.Look for a wide beam and my own preference is to never buy a canoe without a keel,if you use it in windy locations you will learn this soon enough.I use a radisson but the ultralights require that you are a lot more careful around logs ,stumps,rocks ect.The plus side is they will keep you and your gear afloat even when full of water.
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Post by kwilliams12 on Mar 25, 2013 7:55:24 GMT -5
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Post by austinp on Mar 25, 2013 8:08:03 GMT -5
she's pretty gouged up and battered in places... but still seaworthy and able to haul gear if there wasn't several inches of ice up in St Lawrence county right now, she'd be floating out muskrats and beaver right this very minute Attachments:
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Post by whartonrattrapper on Mar 25, 2013 8:53:00 GMT -5
austin. What's the fork for?
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Post by austinp on Mar 25, 2013 8:57:15 GMT -5
austin. What's the fork for? lots of uses... grabbing vegetation along the bank to pull canoe in or hold on location while I place traps at sets... reach out and pull stakes from the canoe in shallow water or mud, retrieve dropped items, wading staff when out of the canoe, etc
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Post by whartonrattrapper on Mar 25, 2013 9:47:59 GMT -5
I have one in the shed, never thought to bring it along when floating the rivers. Thanks for the idea! Wait until my partner sees me loading that in the boat! lol We use a 12' flat bottom boat with a 12 LB cruise n carry motor.
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Post by austinp on Mar 25, 2013 10:50:55 GMT -5
those potato rakes are handy as heck on the water lines... it is literally a third extension arm for anything you need to grab. I hate to be without one
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Post by proratman on Mar 25, 2013 15:34:42 GMT -5
I find this very interesting because I use a hoe for trapping out of a boat. The areas that I trap are soft muck and I can easily wack it into the bank. My boat is a 12 foot semi-V hull which is very stable. When the hoe is wacked into the bank and laid across to the edge of the boat, I can transfer some of my weight onto the handle while setting traps over the side of the boat.
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