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Post by flatiron on Apr 5, 2011 16:40:54 GMT -5
Like fine wine ---------------aged is better !
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Post by bobsamuelson on Apr 5, 2011 17:56:59 GMT -5
WOW! This thread has taken on a life of its own!
This is the type of thread that makes this site what it is! Ask a question and BAM! The info that is shared is tremendous and makes me proud to be part if it!
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Post by Denny Emery on Apr 5, 2011 18:16:19 GMT -5
Can glands be fresh but 2 yrs old?
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Post by mikespring on Apr 5, 2011 18:22:31 GMT -5
Yes Denny.....cut them then submerge in water and freeze.
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Post by Denny Emery on Apr 5, 2011 18:31:09 GMT -5
When you unfreeze them - are they considered aged or fresh then? Aged fresh? Fresh aged? LOL, I hate to be the unknowing dolt but I have that stamp on my forehead about this.
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Post by mikespring on Apr 5, 2011 18:35:57 GMT -5
Denny.......your funny....doing it that way would be considered as fresh as 2 year old fox glands could be....
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Post by Denny Emery on Apr 5, 2011 18:38:17 GMT -5
;D
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Post by Itrapny on Apr 5, 2011 18:50:02 GMT -5
They might get freezer burned, but not aged ;D
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Post by mikespring on Apr 5, 2011 18:54:37 GMT -5
Not when submerged in water.. that stops the oxygen from getting to the glands.
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Post by Denny Emery on Apr 5, 2011 20:06:16 GMT -5
I posted in classifieds that I am looking for 1 pint to try my hand at some fox lure.... Sooooo if anyone wants to help me along with my supplies I would be more than happy.
Thanks for all the help everyone
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Post by bballou on Apr 6, 2011 6:16:25 GMT -5
Sooooo ----exactly what kind of help would you like----.I would like to help but I have to know HOW----The last thing I want is to be accused of leading a young feller the wrong direction----You have to have a plan. Some Idea of what you want to do and how you are going to do it---dont jump into this lure thing with your eyes clossed.---I know most of these guys on this thread and there is a world of information to be gained from them---- BE WISE ---ask---form a plan then go for it.----BUT dont call me 3:00 am saying the lure dont taste wright.---Call ED---Bob---Mike--papa bear---LOL.
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Post by papabear on Apr 6, 2011 7:00:48 GMT -5
Ahh haa another gent looking to join in the amature stinky fingers fraturnity. Dont be bashful, jump right in with both hands. A little advise: Dont throw away your favorite lures just yet.....start on a small scale with basic formulas.....aquire the best ingredients you can.......... understand the animal that you are concocting the attractor for... Regards papabear
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Post by mikespring on Apr 6, 2011 9:40:21 GMT -5
Good advice.
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Post by Denny Emery on Apr 6, 2011 19:50:53 GMT -5
Question on pricing, if you can get a pint of gland lure already made up for the same cost or less than the ingredients to make your own...... is it just a thing to say you caught something with something you made up? Mine would be the most basic of gland lures....+++++ some secret ingredients Ed!!!! Just wondering.
Denny
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Post by mikespring on Apr 6, 2011 20:00:40 GMT -5
If I could by the gland lure that I make I would instead of making it myself...Its really a pain in the butt, no pun intended,LOL.
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Post by Denny Emery on Apr 6, 2011 20:14:32 GMT -5
OK a plan - a plain red fox gland lure - with just urine will draw an animal how far off of the beaten path? Would adding some muskrat glands add some drawing power? Again, I am the dolt asking the questions.
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Post by bballou on Apr 6, 2011 20:28:02 GMT -5
Denny; ---I have seen fox---come on the run --for more than 200 yards when they have smelled the lure----but I have seen where they have waked right buy a set---only a few feet away.----for what reason I have no idea.I think the Idea of muskrat glands in a fox gland lure is to smooth out the spike you get with the smell---more so than a call.I think the gland smell should be the dominate smell in any gland lure---not another smell of another ingredient.And this includes the amount of urine used if you use any at all.
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Post by Denny Emery on Apr 6, 2011 20:32:49 GMT -5
So muskrat glands would mellow/sweeten it?
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Post by bballou on Apr 6, 2011 20:38:37 GMT -5
Yes-----so to speak.---
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Post by Denny Emery on Apr 6, 2011 20:42:09 GMT -5
So do you want to subdue any of the gland smell at all?
Can anything be added to boost the gland smell?
Can certain ingredients help "carry" the lure smell?
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Post by jsevering on Apr 7, 2011 7:25:29 GMT -5
good questions denny but you might be getting ahead of yourself some bill said "Sooooo ----exactly what kind of help would you like----.I would like to help but I have to know HOW----The last thing I want is to be accused of leading a young feller the wrong direction----You have to have a plan. Some Idea of what you want to do and how you are going to do it---dont jump into this lure thing with your eyes clossed.---" .................................................................................................... there are a few ways... methods... to break down the glands to achieve your first two questions in part... in the initial build process kinda touched in part here .. i think the gland smell should be the dominate smell in any gland lure---not another smell of another ingredient.And this includes the amount of urine used if you use any at all." then go to... "for what reason I have no idea.I think the Idea of muskrat glands in a fox gland lure is to smooth out the spike you get with the smell---more so than a call. ......................................................................... you have to watch bill every step of the way, he's slippery ... but he's the only one that could get me understanding spikes and controlling them some, the little that i do... you kinda have to have an idea to start, what you want to achieve in the end... that he pretty much beat into this thick skull... jim
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Post by bballou on Apr 7, 2011 9:00:53 GMT -5
Never layed a hand on the guy but did break a few 2 by 4's on his back---LOL----NOW if you want to talk slippery----Jim will fill that bill right to the top-----he could explain your question better than I ----he has one of them SILVER things in his mouth----.and he learn's fast.He also builds some great lure.
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Post by jsevering on Apr 7, 2011 10:45:39 GMT -5
only after considerable help from you and your 2x4's... lost that silver thing a while back... you explain just fine, just wanted to reemphasize your..."form a plan part" ... jim
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Post by bballou on Apr 7, 2011 12:42:13 GMT -5
Denny----Jim is married to a very lovely large lady ---say 6-6 // 250--she makes him toe the line----he spends a lot of time explaining --jest exactly what he is doing each day--thats what he means when he said HE lost it ---- his ability to think and run at the same time.
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Post by papabear on Apr 7, 2011 13:10:27 GMT -5
As Mr. Severing stated, glands with the subtle addition of secretions and urine should be the dominant odor. Addition of other ingredients should be compatable to the glands and enhance the true gland odor and not overpower it. Ingredients such as Asafoetida, Lovage, and a few others will enhance a gland lure if added in small amounts. Example take a pint of prepared glands, put 8 oz in a clean jar, there you have a straight gland lure now take the remaining 8 oz and add 1/4 oz of Asafoetida and 1/4 oz of Lovage now you have a matrix gland lure. Keep it simple! Regards papabear
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