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Post by bobsamuelson on Oct 29, 2015 16:20:39 GMT -5
One of the farms I am trapping on, there are 3 or 4 others who are deer hunting. I have been checking traps at 5 am. before I go to work. I get a call from the "coordinator" of the group telling me that one of the members thinks that by driving to check my traps is scaring the deer! Keep in mind that Tuesday and Wednesday they picked about 100 acres of corn, with 10 wheel dump trucks driving from the field, past where my traps are, to the farm, then back to the field! Seeing these trucks, the huge combine, various tractors and poop spreaders throughout the summer, are deer really that skittish of my truck?
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Post by REDNECK on Oct 29, 2015 16:39:07 GMT -5
That's a bunch off cow dung some people have these beliefs become they are not getting deer they have to blame it one some thing you just happen to be the one today sorry Bob to hear this
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Post by tmc on Oct 29, 2015 17:36:02 GMT -5
Just a load of trapper-hate, if you want my opinion. I agree with Brian.
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Post by ron finewood on Oct 29, 2015 17:37:17 GMT -5
I hear the same thing all the time. It is annoying, but somewhat true. In my days on the farm, I could drive a tractor fairly close to a deer without it spooking. But----- if I stopped and got off the tractor----the deer was history. For some reason, deer are used to vehicles------but not people. Just look at all the road killed deer.
Ron
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Post by keith on Oct 29, 2015 18:15:10 GMT -5
If you do scare a deer you are just as likely to scare it to one of the hunters as you are to scare it away. If they use that item under their hat they can plan and use your activities as a free deer drive.
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Post by bobsamuelson on Oct 29, 2015 18:38:39 GMT -5
Sorry, Ron , but I have to disagree. When checking rat traps, I have had deer follow me!
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Post by tmc on Oct 29, 2015 18:49:24 GMT -5
I know they can be on stand at any time, but hunting light at 5AM is - well, it's not. Deer around here move at night, once the sun comes up they're ghosts. We have the orchard here and the farm a ways away, pickers and tractors and trucks are all over the orchard from about 5AM (go figure!) until after dark and the deer are used to it. It's fun to watch them from the vantage point of the second story of our house near the road, they pretty much have the pickers patterned and adjust their movement and locations accordingly for the day. When I come home late, after dark (that'll change this weekend, lol!), the deer look up from the orchard and/or garden behind the house as the truck headlights swing around coming in the driveway. They rarely spook, even when I'm unloading the truck.
Again, I call B.S. on the bunch of 'em.
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Post by erict on Oct 29, 2015 19:08:28 GMT -5
If I were one of those hunters I would use your regular morning checks to my advantage. I would also be asking you what kind of deer you are seeing and where you are seeing them. In return, I would offer any tips on where I was seeing furry critters on the property or offering you gut piles to make bait. Easier to work with each other than against. Good luck.
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Post by Diamond#21 on Oct 29, 2015 20:21:54 GMT -5
FACT... I've seen more large bucks from a tractor seat than I ever have in a deer stand. Just this morning at 6:15 am I had a 6 point within 20 yards of the ATV and never raised a tail, just walked off into the brush. They are conditioned to the sights and sounds of equipment and vehicles, just another day for them.
Let me guess these guys lease hunting rights??
Open dialog goes along ways, if you know their plans and they know yours a little planning can keep everyone happy.
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Post by milkie62 on Oct 29, 2015 21:24:26 GMT -5
The only problem is that if the deer hunters have a better repor with the farmer,you may lose trapping ground until after hunting season is over.I have 3 farms that I trap and I am not allowed on them till after deer season.
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Post by squash on Oct 30, 2015 5:18:02 GMT -5
All I know is here in my area of Tug Hill , ATV's and vehicles spook the hell out of the deer, especially ATV's. Don't know why they are so afraid of ATV's ? but cars and trucks I think it's because they get shot at from vehicles day and night ?
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Post by trappermac on Oct 30, 2015 5:54:58 GMT -5
You have every right that they do to be there Bob. Like you I check mine early on the way to work, I'm in early and out by 7:00 AM. That's about 45 minutes before legal shooting time. I doubt we're disrupting pre-rut buck activity. They may go whine to the farmer, you may want to beat them to the punch and explain to the him whats happened and tell him how you're not messing anything up for them.
I have one farm this year that I have now been asked to wait until after deer season, the farmer nor his family hunts there, I assume the guys who hunt there complained. He wouldn't say that, but when he says "well, it's not really right, is it, to mess up the hunt for others?". I just said fine. And it's bowhunters, I'm always out before gun season and the farmer knows that. Just down the road there is a hunt lease bordering this property, probably the same guys.
Conversely, I have a large farm I've trapped for 7 years that gets plenty of goose hunters, he has a very large stock pond and plenty of corn and it really draws the geese. Hunters stop all the time to ask permission to set up, he tells them sure, but just so you know I got a guy who traps back there and he can trap anywhere he wants. I give him a 30 pack of Labatts every year when I stop to ask permission.
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Post by whartonrattrapper on Oct 30, 2015 6:25:16 GMT -5
This Seems to be a reoccurring theme for me. I work with them the best I can.
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Post by austinp on Oct 30, 2015 7:28:03 GMT -5
muskrat trappers deal with waterfowl hunters like that on public WMAs, too. They want the whole flow to themselves after laying out a big spread... weekend mornings all you see are mojo wings flashing far as the sightline goes.
pheasant hunters on upland WMA lands have about shut those down for canine trapping, too. Now that pheasant season runs to Dec 31st, kiss goodbye all those hot crossings in grassy sections of public WMA ground.
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Post by squash on Oct 30, 2015 7:53:52 GMT -5
All the more reason to own your own land. Instead of investing in the stock market casino, buy your own ground.
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Post by herm on Oct 30, 2015 8:45:45 GMT -5
The NY Houndsmen have at times passes out a pamphlet on a study that showed what effect running hounds had in scaring deer away. The results showed that there was no effect. I would have no problem going out coon hunting tonight on the same piece of ground that I was going to deer hunt on the following morning. However, trying to convince most deer hunters that don't want you there, make that tree stand deer hunters, that you are not effecting their deer hunting, most likely is a waist of your time.
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Post by chiefdave1010 on Oct 31, 2015 18:20:57 GMT -5
i now were i trap and hunt i drive right by the deer on my atv and all they do is look at me unless i stop and turn the atv off then there gone
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Post by sodusguy09 on Oct 11, 2019 6:21:57 GMT -5
muskrat trappers deal with waterfowl hunters like that on public WMAs, too. They want the whole flow to themselves after laying out a big spread... weekend mornings all you see are mojo wings flashing far as the sightline goes. pheasant hunters on upland WMA lands have about shut those down for canine trapping, too. Now that pheasant season runs to Dec 31st, kiss goodbye all those hot crossings in grassy sections of public WMA ground. And this is why southern zone areas that habe the Nov 25 until Feb 15 water season should habe it extended until the end of march or Apr 15 like most of the northern zone. Open water doesnt last long with those dates and it would eliminate the problems like this one
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Post by paintedpaw on Oct 12, 2019 8:40:53 GMT -5
I think that deer are very used to vehicles. You have every right to be there. Sportsmen should be supporting each other rather than beefing about the other guy. How many canines do they scare away when they are going into their stands? What a bunch of crap !
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Post by jctunnelrat on Oct 16, 2019 20:29:28 GMT -5
Hear that kind of story every year... You smoked a cigarette two days ago and it fucked up my hunt. You used the wrong soap to wash with and it fucked up my hunt.
But I can gut a doe with a hunting partner that is smoking a cigar and drinking some kind of clear fluid out of a mason jar and yelling louder than a coyote in heat, when all of a sudden here come two does (and we got both of them). 25 yds. away.
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