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Post by REDNECK on Jul 3, 2015 15:42:34 GMT -5
I use Berkshire hd the first year they were nice year two I am not happy with them the tip bends why driving them in so I am thinking the wolf fangs but would like some feed back from some of you all to see who likes what I used cable last year but I think I am going to use chain and cable well let's see what one takes the cake
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Post by uncledoug on Jul 3, 2015 16:28:54 GMT -5
I switched from HD Berks to Wolf Fangs for the same reason you're switching. I made some fangs with 3/32 cable and they worked fine except now and then I can't get the cable all the way into the ground. This leaves the cable sticking out of the ground and I have trouble making it lay down.
I also made some with #2 Machine chain attached to the fang with a loop of 3/32 cable, think I got this tip from Coop. It works well for me and is easy to make.
The W.F. are very nice to drive in the pilot hole using a driver made for them. I bought a driver for 15 bucks or so and would recommend paying extra and getting a good quality driver, mine bent half way through the season, still works but kind of a pain. I hear Nightstalker makes a very nice heavy duty driver.
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Post by REDNECK on Jul 3, 2015 18:57:26 GMT -5
I am told the same about ni ghtstalker and his gear and thats who I plan on getting mine from i am thinking the same about the chain or the cable/ chain and welding a lock washer to keep the chain on I think it was coop who told us how to use the cable and chain any one elts got some tips
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Post by White Mountain Trappers on Jul 4, 2015 8:32:45 GMT -5
Hi Red,
best thing I ever did was switch all my predator traps to chained super stakes with welded s hooks.
no more tangled up Cale stakes.
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Post by REDNECK on Jul 4, 2015 9:43:08 GMT -5
The super stakes are nice but the driver head get stuck in some times pain in the butt I got a box of #2 chain and a few 100ft of cable but I just dont know what ends I should use to many options I am going to order 100 ends to start off with so trying to find what one is best
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Post by rendezvous on Jul 4, 2015 10:10:15 GMT -5
I tried shortening my cable by 6" and added 6" of chain to avoid the possibility of the cable sticking up in the trap bed, I finally just went with Super Stakes...  |
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Post by jeckman on Jul 4, 2015 11:12:39 GMT -5
Super stakes are almost unbreakable.. Find an unbreakable driver and your all set..
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Post by REDNECK on Jul 4, 2015 13:21:11 GMT -5
Man they are like 1.25 a piece I would have to cut a lot of losses to get 100 of them
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Post by jeckman on Jul 5, 2015 8:37:53 GMT -5
Man they are like 1.25 a piece I would have to cut a lot of losses to get 100 of them No problem. Just catch 100 coon this season and they'll be paid off... Im a super stake fan and a bulldog puller fan to get them stakes back... |
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Post by REDNECK on Jul 5, 2015 9:14:53 GMT -5
Thanks this year is going to be a slow one for me a hobby line what I get is what I get but I need to start to add more to the fur shed this year is all on fur put up and ways to improve this will be year 3 for me each year it gets better as for earth anchors still dont know may buy a few to play with I know the bullet is tuff as nails and many years of use but man still I know I cant get that back in a year I am letting all my opossum go this year and thats where my money was lol I dont know how its all going to pan out this year but I am not missing it
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Post by bmtrapper on Jul 5, 2015 19:25:44 GMT -5
I like the Berkshires my self. I predrive a hole and the anchor drives in nice. Nice and lite , easy to make, price is ok, reuseable.
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Post by slyfox74 on Jul 5, 2015 19:44:41 GMT -5
I'm with bmtrapper on this. For the price Berkshire HD are the way to go. There are a couple tricks, pre dive the hole and use your body weight to drive the stake as far as it will go, after that, make sure the cable is tight and straight in line with the driver otherwise the driver may jump out of the socket tip when you're hammering it in. I only use cable because I think it sinks easier, and if you ever have to cut it off it's not such a big loss.
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Post by REDNECK on Jul 5, 2015 20:55:27 GMT -5
Ya i liked them but i am having a toss up with the sting rays and the bullets I dont like the pogos or the duck bills as for the Berkshire my first year I used a pice of rebar and a log nut driven on to it worked grate so last year I got one from the c onvenson and it would bend the tip all the way down I did as said from you all pre drove it in by hand /hammer then drive the end in with my weigh a good ways then I hold the wire tight by the lug nut hit it and the driver would go all the way pull it out and tug on it pop the end was only in 5in gave up on it and got the old home made Jobber but its not tuff as I need some times so I am going to change so I may sell all I have now to make up for the new ones I get
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Post by slyfox74 on Jul 6, 2015 8:19:03 GMT -5
I welded a T handle on top of my driver (mine is rebar as well). That way I can get both hands and all my weight right on it. In some cases I can drive it right in to the swivel without hammering. Keep the driver as short as possible to avoid it jumping around when you do have to hammer it. Mine is about 3 or 4 inches longer than my cable stake.
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Post by REDNECK on Jul 6, 2015 10:55:05 GMT -5
No welder here I wish I so wont to make some mods on some traps I like to wield but I am self tough and no one i know has one with argon the driver I have is 22 in and my
Earth anchors are 19in I trap feild a lot so the earth is not so bad but some times on the edge is all rocks so I can just push it home I love the creek or bogs go's in like butter by the time I go to the convenson I will know what I will be using but I like the feed back I like to mark my own i got my first set of 30 from onehandsetter they were nice held up good got a few more from Rockwood every one pulled out when I set it in the ground ....they were not made by him they were a trade in from there on I like to make my own and I hang from every one if it hold my chubby butt they pass
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Post by 9wire on Jul 9, 2015 17:16:50 GMT -5
For those of you that use superstakes and drive and pull them repeatedly in hard ground, watch the eye of the stake that your S-hook or lock washer attaches to. Driving and pulling will stress the eye and turn the hole from round to oblong. When you see an oblong eye beware because it won't be long before it fails... Just a little FYI..
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Post by jeckman on Jul 9, 2015 21:32:35 GMT -5
Redneck gotta tell ya.. I been picked on many times over my grammar including this place after my 3rd post but i think you got me beat....
Lmao... Im better known for my Jenglish maybe you be known for redneckenese.... Lol. Good stuff man. I understand
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Post by slyfox74 on Jul 9, 2015 22:13:36 GMT -5
Redneck gotta tell ya.. I been picked on many times over my grammar including this place after my 3rd post but i think you got me beat.... Lmao... Im better known for my Jenglish maybe you be known for redneckenese.... Lol. Good stuff man. I understand Good observation. I felt bad after I busted your beans so badly. I figured I'd just let Redneck go on it. |
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Post by REDNECK on Jul 9, 2015 23:01:36 GMT -5
Hell I never finished school it was to hard had a ruff upbringing I am dyslexic/add/Adhd and have ocd i know a hot mess I dont give a dam I try and I get busted on a lot but what dont kill me makes me stronger and I am over being sad about being busted on but every one calls it speaking redneck but most of the foke on here get me and help me out like family I have Been getting better and so every one knows I dont take it to heart after 29 years of dealing with it its the lease of my worrys what fokes thinknof my spelling
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Post by jeckman on Jul 10, 2015 4:15:25 GMT -5
Hell I never finished school it was to hard had a ruff upbringing I am dyslexic/add/Adhd and have ocd i know a hot mess I dont give a dam I try and I get busted on a lot but what dont kill me makes me stronger and I am over being sad about being busted on but every one calls it speaking redneck but most of the foke on here get me and help me out like family I have Been getting better and so every one knows I dont take it to heart after 29 years of dealing with it its the lease of my worrys what fokes thinknof my spelling lol. Im just playing. But i am calling it redneckenese.... |
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Post by jeckman on Jul 10, 2015 4:35:26 GMT -5
The 1st cable stake i used was heavy duty berkshires. Something like only 2/3 when i pulled i could reuse the next season.. Don't think any made it past 3 seasons and I'd get out and try putting in my trapline and have them bust off as i was trying to get my line it. Frustrating... That was when i only ran 12 or so k9 traps...
Think I'm on season #6 since i completely switched over to super stakes.. With over 200 k9 traps rigged up with them..
Mine go from stake to 1/8 cable around a foot long then 6 or so inches of chain. Then a swivel and to my trap chain..
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Post by tmc on Jul 10, 2015 7:32:36 GMT -5
I'm sort of Brian's non-official translator, should you ever want or need a translation. But somehow I think you've got Redneckese figured out just fine.  Brian, I agree with all that's been said of super stakes. The "regular-grade" drivers - nah. Nope, the first one I had lasted me 6 sets and 3 of them stuck on the driver and came out with the driver when I pulled it up. Then I got another, far better quality driver at Herkimer last year, it's fine so far but nightstalker will make the best - and last - you'll ever need. If funds are the issue, what I used to do way back when (and still do because it works) is to fasten the trap to a "clog," which is nothing more than a drag made of whatever is in the area and strong enough to withstand anything a coyote can throw at it. GREEN wood, especially buckthorn or other invasive types that I'm going to cut down anyhow, work best for me. Just be sure that there are things - branches, etc. - to keep the chain or cable or whatever from slipping off. A fence staple is almost a requirement, but I've done without one. The buckthorn or whatever should be at least 3" at the stump end. I generally leave the tree whole, unless it's a really tall one but make it fit the set and surroundings. The beauty of this is not just "cheap" but it's natural; in a blind/trail set, especially in the woods or pasture, it's just a tree that went down. I lay it across the trail and set the trap in the trail to one side or the other (I've since mostly gone to one trap each side of the clog, in the trail, both attached to the same clog) and the clog is a natural step-over and the foot comes down squarely in the pan. Of course deer are a problem with springing the traps, but deer are that problem wherever deer are. If using at a dirt hole or other set, I lay the butt-end of the clog nearest the trap and run it out at an angle to more or less act as a guide. Too much is not good, of course, but... you know what I mean. Anyways, that's about that on that. Only one time did I have a loss using this, and it was a Bigfoot that got caught and destroyed the little square-jaw Victor No. 2, and those traps really are #2 when it comes to bigfeets. Or great big ol' coyotes, or whatever treated the trap like it was a paperclip. (Just kidding, it was a huge coyote and it took that clog a long long way through thick woods and brush. They generally don't go far, this one did.) Adios! |
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Post by REDNECK on Jul 10, 2015 10:35:08 GMT -5
thanks good stuff tmc will you be at the nta in hamburg
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Post by tmc on Jul 11, 2015 13:28:20 GMT -5
No, I'll probably miss everything except Herkimer this year. ...again...  |
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Post by REDNECK on Jul 11, 2015 15:52:22 GMT -5
Wtf man you need to get some help on the farm and get out to see us hick foke
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