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Post by homebuilt on Jan 3, 2015 18:41:33 GMT -5
stopped by a local fur buyers today with a couple of coons, scraped, and dryed. the buyer wanted to know why the tails were wrinkly, aka pleated(I think). did I do something wrong here? last year I had a well known fur buyer compliment me on my furs, considering it was my first year. now i'm being shot down and offered $5 for one of my best put ups. I know the market is down, but i'd hate to see what there offer was on my worst. I think i'll take my chances at the next auction. besides they sound like a lot of fun!
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Post by kirkwooder on Jan 3, 2015 20:01:59 GMT -5
You should pin your tails out flat, even if you put up on wire. Makes the fur look much better. Use cardboard, ceder shakes, or short pieces of board and slide them inside the fur and pin the tails out like you would if you were putting them up on wood.
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Post by homebuilt on Jan 3, 2015 20:13:27 GMT -5
these are on wood, the skirts are pinned out strait. the tails are pinned out and "pleated" up. i'll get a pic up soon.
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Post by partimetrapper on Jan 4, 2015 6:40:50 GMT -5
sounds like you did a great job
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Post by kirkwooder on Jan 4, 2015 9:42:00 GMT -5
I have never heard of pleating tails. I've been doing this since 1984, and have set many of those years solely for coon, and have never seen or heard of "pleating". LOL I've only been putting up my fur for the last 6-7 years though. I bet the buyer you saw, was in the same boat as me, and had never seen it done. With the markets being what they are now he likely didn't want to pay you well for fur he was unsure of selling in that manner of put up. You will likely do better with the larger numbers of buyers at an auction.
I had to google it. From what I read it sounds like a sound practice, something about relaxing the hide and increasing density in the window. I may have to give it a try.
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Post by tmc on Jan 4, 2015 9:51:40 GMT -5
I know that NAFA's pelting guide for raccoon states: "Do not stretch the tail long - push it towards the inspection area." This isn't necessarily the same as suggesting that you should pleat the tail as is done with mink. I'm with kirkwooder on this, I've been putting up my own fur since the 60's and never pleated tails on raccoon. Not saying that's a reason for docking you on the price, only the buyer can answer why he did that. I compliment you on putting your fur up with class!
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Post by homebuilt on Jan 4, 2015 12:48:43 GMT -5
here's a couple pics showing what I've got.
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Post by kirkwooder on Jan 4, 2015 13:14:54 GMT -5
They look very well done to me! I think you need to find a different buyer.
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Post by tmc on Jan 5, 2015 0:58:45 GMT -5
Ditto.
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Post by slyfox74 on Jan 6, 2015 21:07:15 GMT -5
They look great, I've never pleated tails but I like the way those look, and you did a great job fleshing them.
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Post by bearman60 on Jan 8, 2015 17:32:03 GMT -5
very nice
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Post by homebuilt on Jan 10, 2015 21:20:26 GMT -5
well the girl and i made a little trip down to the flatiron today. needless to say i'm quite glad I said no to my local buyer. my worst coon(which were bad, in my opinion) brought what she wanted to pay for one of my better coon! just goes to show not to be scared to say no if you think your getting boned. my yotes brought $10 more than she wanted to pay also. my hat goes off to john for being a honest buyer, and taking the chance at loosing his ass. you never know what will happen with this market!
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Post by Scott Kimball on Jan 11, 2015 15:59:53 GMT -5
Homebuilt: You did a good job on pleating your coon tails.Pleating your tails along with NOT over stretching them should put more fur into the inspection window and SHOULD move your coons up a grade. I have done it to all my coons and my skunks also. Anything you can do to improve the looks and quality to your fur is to YOUR benefit. Another great tip. When i am done taking my coos off of my basswood stretcher i rub all exposed fur down with hardwood sawdust to remove the remaining grease from the fur.i also hang my coons nose down which will reduce the grease going into the exposed fur.
WELL HANDLED FUR SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
Scott
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Post by homebuilt on Jan 11, 2015 21:30:40 GMT -5
thankyou mr Kimball and all those above. In pretty new to all of this but I try to do the best I can. I also hang my coons nose down to try and control the grease. I will keep the sawdust trick in mind in the future as I hate those last few hairs that are alway's a little sticky!
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Post by cooper67 on Jan 18, 2015 20:38:52 GMT -5
I remember your coons at the flatiron you do a excellent job on your coon some of the better ones I see with helping out john at sales
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Post by homebuilt on Jan 20, 2015 20:49:24 GMT -5
thanks coop, that means a lot. next year I hope to improve in a couple spots that i'm still not happy with. that grease on the fur around the edges is one of them.
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