oldeman
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Post by oldeman on Apr 7, 2012 11:34:45 GMT -5
The 161000 acre holdings of Finch Pruyn have been purchased by The Nature Conservancy and Adirondack Land Trust.This includes 415 miles of rivers and streams.90 mountains.300 lakes and ponds.and parts of the Hudson and Cedar river watershed.This land is located in 6 counties and 27 towns the majority is in the heart of the Adirondacks.
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Post by bballou on Apr 7, 2012 13:11:19 GMT -5
If they ---burn it ---or cut it ----it will mean that more---than owls and mice and squirrels will live there.---And they finally got some people to head the organization with a few smarts. Jest M.O.
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Post by Itrapny on Apr 7, 2012 13:24:58 GMT -5
If I remember correctly from last years NYSTA Spring membership meeting, this land will eventually be purchased by the state. Since the wheels of govt turn so slow and the state just doesn't have the amount of money up front for a large purchase, they act in partnership with the Nature Conseratory I believe....This will be a good question to ask the DEC at the NYSTA Spring Membership Conference in Watertown on the 21st.
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oldeman
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Post by oldeman on Apr 7, 2012 13:27:45 GMT -5
One could only hope that would be the case.This kind of stuff always scares h@ll out of me.That Essex chain and high peaks area is the home of my ancestors.I am a direct decendant of adirondack guide John Cheney.
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Post by mole on Apr 7, 2012 16:37:46 GMT -5
I would be very surprised if it doesnt become Forever Wild.
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oldeman
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Post by oldeman on Apr 7, 2012 16:49:16 GMT -5
Forever wild translates eventually into forever dead.Even the native americans had sense enough to burn some of it off from time to time.
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Post by fisherman on Apr 7, 2012 16:51:58 GMT -5
What is so disgusting is that the environmentalists seem to hold all of the say. I agree with Mr.Mole, they will probably classify most of it as wilderness, putting it out of reach for the average person. When is enough state land enough? They can't handle what they have now!
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Post by trappermac on Apr 8, 2012 6:59:41 GMT -5
That purchase actually took place in 2007. Wayne is correct, the state does not have the money to purchase a tract like this so the NC comes in and purchases it and "holds" it while the state slowly purchases it over time. In this case the state plans on purchasing 65,000 acres, some this year and some of that down the road. First purchase they hope to be the Essex Chain of Lakes where they hope to make a canoe area similiar to the St Regis area.
NC already sold 89,000 acres, most of it to ATP Timberland investments. The state has purchased a conservation easement on that area to prevent any development.
According to the Adirondack Explorer the fight down the road will be whether this 68,000 acres becomes Wilderness or Wild Forest.
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Post by nylogger on Apr 8, 2012 11:27:38 GMT -5
Some towns and school districts are about to loose a large portion of their tax base if the lands become forever wild. If the state really feels the need to own it then they should own it and classify it as reforestation area. When classifying it as reforestation area the state must pay taxes to the towns and school districts. Forever wild lands pay no taxes. I'm hearing a large grass roots movement by local towns and school districts is underway to oppose the sale as forever wild or special use area designation ,as special use pays no taxes either.
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Post by Trapper Jack on Apr 8, 2012 19:02:49 GMT -5
I trap 600 + acres of private land which borders stateland that I also trap and hunt. The owner had the land logged a couple years ago. It was selective logging and not clear cut. It brought back everything from ruffed grouse, rabbits, fox etc. I absolutely agree that logging or controlled burning is a major plus. I walked into Long Lake via the NP trail heading toward Shattuck Clearing recently. The blowdowns and trees are so thick in spots and the overhead canopy blocks out all sun. Just getting rid of the down timber would help bring back game.
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Post by sthet on Apr 8, 2012 21:27:05 GMT -5
the nature convancy has been historically the originial purchaser of lands that eventually end up in the hands of the state. This is probably a real good thing. There could be many other purchasers that could make things much worse. I would expect it to eventually become a WMU.
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Post by mole on Apr 10, 2012 2:32:31 GMT -5
State of Ny sued our school district over their assessment. Forever wild, forever dead. one more step in eliminating residents in the great Adirondack Park. Horray for Ignorance.
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Post by clt on Apr 10, 2012 10:40:42 GMT -5
What is so disgusting is that the environmentalists seem to hold all of the say. I agree with Mr.Mole, they will probably classify most of it as wilderness, putting it out of reach for the average person. When is enough state land enough? They can't handle what they have now! X2
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oldeman
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Post by oldeman on Apr 12, 2012 22:08:16 GMT -5
My biggest concern is that given the current financial condition of the State how would they be able to maintain the additional acerage when as I am confident that a lot of you have noticed they are currently not doing too well with trail maintainance or markers or eaven trailhead markers some of wich I have noticed have missing for a year or two.Where would that leave us in the event of any kind of a natural disaster. It just maybe that they already have more land than they can handle.
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