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Post by nightstalker1 on Apr 3, 2012 17:06:45 GMT -5
Dabbling with making drags. Here's what I came up with.....looking for opinions, ideas, critiques. Stats: - 1" dia. pipe - 6" wide - 10" long - 4" long cotton spinldes for diggers with 2" offset - 3/16" dia. connector for chain - weighs 2 pounds 6" scale in pics for a reference Big enough for coyotes ? Too light ? More offset ? Angle out away from shaft too ? (spindles are just tacked on)
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Post by Itrapny on Apr 3, 2012 17:16:32 GMT -5
If strictly for coyotes it needs to be a bit heavier in my opinion ;D
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Post by nightstalker1 on Apr 3, 2012 17:19:44 GMT -5
Exactly what I'm looking for....keep 'em coming guys
Thanks
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Post by tomsnare on Apr 3, 2012 18:45:57 GMT -5
Chain could hook on spindle end next to pipe? I like the looks of it I think its big enough in open ground I lengthen the chain or add another hook the weight seems right.----Tom
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Post by pettit877 on Apr 3, 2012 19:16:57 GMT -5
Maybe adding a anti hitch to the back of that drag and possibly solid stock for the top of the T part should add some weight. Let me know if you need any more stock i may know a guy.
Eric
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Post by nightstalker1 on Apr 3, 2012 19:17:34 GMT -5
Chain could hook on spindle end next to pipe? I like the looks of it I think its big enough in open ground I lengthen the chain or add another hook the weight seems right.----Tom Like this....end inside the pipe ?? on the diggers right side offset 2" and parallel to shaft left side offset 2" and skewed out away from the shaft
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Post by bballou on Apr 3, 2012 20:14:25 GMT -5
Tom looks good to me------should work good on coyote ----Keep that offset at least 2 inches. BUT ---no matter what you do you will get a coyote who will travel a lot further than you ever expected. Jest one of Murphy's LAWS
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Post by Brunner on Apr 3, 2012 21:58:23 GMT -5
Looks good to me Tom. I like the weight. My only input really is I would like either the "T" to be wider or have the spikes skewed out like the one you have already done.
One other thing I just noticed. I would like the ends of the pipe closed up.
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Post by nyerluvs2trap on Apr 3, 2012 23:27:23 GMT -5
Tom Your spikes need more weld where they are welded on the pipe.Weak spot when it caughts up sold .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2012 5:47:43 GMT -5
How about solid round stock instead of pipe? You can get soild stock cheap enough from Klein Steel.
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Post by nightstalker1 on Apr 4, 2012 14:21:17 GMT -5
Jeff - Spikes are just tacked until I figure out where they will end up
AJ - steel has gone up alot lately
Appreciate all the input guys
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Post by ztbowtech on Apr 4, 2012 14:49:42 GMT -5
you could always fill the pipe with concrete for weight
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Post by milkie62 on Apr 4, 2012 17:27:28 GMT -5
Tom--sounds like you have alot of time on your hands.Drag looks good but agree the ends need to be plugged---may hold too much odor.Now if you have alot of time to design a drag,I have alot of yard that needs spring cleanup. LOL Ed
P.S. The Pile driver worked great!!!!!
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Post by Zagman on Apr 4, 2012 21:01:08 GMT -5
I've dragged quite a few coyotes over the years since getting the dogs......
Chain length and weight has as much impact on the drag's performance as the drag itself, IMO.
I'd consider two pounds on the "light" side for what I use and target......coyotes
But some guys may want it to perform for a wider variety of smaller critters AND coyotes.
One thing with a Jake, 10-12 foot of heavy chain and a big, heavy custom drag..........if you pull in and DONT see your catch, you probably got ripped off OR you have a coyote.
Fox, skunks, possums, coons, etc just wont move that much equipment far. Can't really speak for cats, fisher, etc.
You could put sharp tabs or tits sticking up and angling similar to the cottom spindles on the naked side of each cross piece......essentially having four points, but more importantly, "lifting" the cross piece to be parallel with the ground and ensuring that the main spindle is angled correctly and really digging in.
Make sense?
MZ
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Post by nyerluvs2trap on Apr 5, 2012 0:00:27 GMT -5
Gotacha Tom
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Post by slyfox74 on Apr 5, 2012 6:06:00 GMT -5
I avoid drags at all costs. However, on the rare occasion that I NEED to use a drag. I use a 20 lb Danforth boat anchor with 12' of chain. I still chased a coyote over a mile one time with that set up. To me overkill on drags is perfect. If I wanted to go hunting, I'd go hunting.
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Post by mikespring on Apr 5, 2012 6:42:05 GMT -5
Those drags are perfect for my style of dragging canines. I need my catch to get off the beaten path.
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Post by nightstalker1 on Apr 5, 2012 16:13:08 GMT -5
Those drags are perfect for my style of dragging canines. I need my catch to get off the beaten path. Hey....someone liked it !! LOL keep the ideas coming I want to make an AFFORDABLE all-around drag You have all given me some ideas....thanks
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Post by yoteguts on Apr 5, 2012 16:45:34 GMT -5
I like it. I think I would prefer solid stock or capped ends but I don't know much about drags. Very nice work Tom.
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Post by tomsnare on Apr 5, 2012 21:10:28 GMT -5
I like the hollow pipe shipping would be less and I could fill the pipe, I have a few drags that I think were made by Mike Ayers of Co. that look similiar to what you are playing with they are pretty effective will put picture up if you like?---Tom
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Post by Zagman on Apr 5, 2012 23:16:55 GMT -5
I use a 20 lb Danforth boat anchor with 12' of chain. I still chased a coyote over a mile one time with that set up.
gosh, hate to be a butthead, but gotta throw the BS flag on that play.
Did he fall in a river, drown,hook on a raft, and float ONE MILE away?
MZ
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Post by slyfox74 on Apr 5, 2012 23:36:21 GMT -5
No, I don't blame you for that. It was on a flat cow pasture that had a drainage ditch going through the middle. The coyote got on the ice in the ditch and ended up a mile away hung up on a washed out stump. It crossed 3 fence lines with that anchor dragging behind him. I guess it sounds unrealistic if it's not explained fully.
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Post by Zagman on Apr 6, 2012 6:39:15 GMT -5
OK..that makes more sense!
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Post by jsevering on Apr 6, 2012 8:04:03 GMT -5
You could put sharp tabs or tits sticking up and angling similar to the cottom spindles on the naked side of each cross piece......essentially having four points, but more importantly, "lifting" the cross piece to be parallel with the ground and ensuring that the main spindle is angled correctly and really digging in.
Make sense? .................................................................................................makes sense to me... tits at a right angle or so to the spindle to lift her some, help her dig in and a bit more weight, to help some with digging in or tracking... the weight part is hard, coyotes vrs. fox... know some winter sets for fox i would much prefer a lighter drag that won't hook in right away to try and save the actual set, tend to settle with a good light stout clog at times, instead of the heavier coyote drag... looks nice are you going to develope a few different styles to offer... jim
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Post by nightstalker1 on Apr 6, 2012 9:08:23 GMT -5
Thanks Jim From the replies, it seems like I should have two sizes A lighter, simple one for fox, coon, mink, etc A heavy one withan anti-hitch for coyotes Like this Jim ??
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