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Post by herm on Jan 14, 2006 20:25:32 GMT -5
I recieved an E mail today from BPB informing me of the 220 thing again.The HSUS is already involved and this insident took place in Suffolk Co. ,the same county that before tried to regulate the use of traps in that county.
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Post by Itrapny on Jan 14, 2006 20:54:53 GMT -5
Smells like a set up to me, the same thing happened up in Anchorage, Alaska a couple of years ago. A group of tree huggers put a dog in a 330 and sent th epictures to the local newspaper. It was later proved the whole thing was a set up.
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Post by herm on Jan 14, 2006 21:02:37 GMT -5
It very well could be. By the way the story reads it is easy to tell that at least some of it has been made up such as being able to hear the snap of the 220 being set off.
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Post by Itrapny on Jan 14, 2006 21:20:53 GMT -5
Same type deal up in Alaska, the people were "walking there dog" along a trail in a park and they heard the trap go off and the dog howl. they "rescured it just before it died I believe the story went.
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Post by jsevering on Jan 15, 2006 8:35:00 GMT -5
amazing how quick dog lovers figure out how to break the two springs and set at least one safty latch all in time to save rover, must be rover is a very diciplened calm dog and didnt add any twist to the equation......jim
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Post by Scottthetrapper on Jan 15, 2006 14:11:58 GMT -5
Heard the same thing a week ago and haven't posted until confirmed. Not sure on all that's involved.
No tag on the trap-don't know any trappers who don't follow that rule. Responsible trappers such as the ones on this forum are regulated enough and follow those regs. Maybe the dog owner should have followed the regs put forth as part of a responsible dog owner.
Dog couldn't have been in the control of the owner, as stated in the leash law. If it was, the owner should be sited for cruelity, under that law.
I feel sorry for the dog, but not the owner. Just as I don't feel sorry for anyone who breaks the laws. An example should be made of this dog owner. If it turns out to be a set up. we should make sure charges are filed. If it turns out to be someone posing as a trapper, we should make sure charges are filed.
Thing such as this are the reason for associations such as NYSTA to exist. A good time to pull together and show our strength and end this stuff once and for all.
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Post by jsevering on Jan 16, 2006 7:56:12 GMT -5
agree with you whole heartedly scott,
but the dog owner has the law of liberal compassion on his side, set up or not. it would be interesting to find out if he or she got ticketed for breaking the leash law.
it would seem that the fact the dog owner was in the wrong to begin with would help establish the course of action and how far they could push the issue.
the way the climate has been with special interest it wouldnt be hard to see how someone would push this down our throats, for regulation totaly unrelated.
set up or not, right or wrong, so called compasionate liberal enforcement, to acheive diverse results seems to rule these days with some.
people like you and me with so called politicaly uncorrect ways are wrong from the get go, legal or not, right or wrong, assoc. or not and the only way to correct our legal politicaly incorrect ways is through more regulation, warrented or not, just a tangent opinion to throw at you for some chewing ......jim
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Post by herm on Jan 18, 2006 8:10:24 GMT -5
Their is currently a thread over on Trapperman about this ,including the story which is appearing in the press.
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Post by Scottthetrapper on Jan 18, 2006 18:54:22 GMT -5
Pit bull saved from Katrina, killed by animal trap
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BY MITCHELL FREEDMAN STAFF WRITER
January 18, 2006, 12:15 AM EST
After a hurricane destroyed an animal shelter in the Bahamas in 2004, Gail Murphy of Sag Harbor took in a 75-pound pit bull mixed breed that was shipped -- along with 20 other dogs -- to Long Island for adoption.
She named him Zephyr, gave the hurricane survivor a home, nursed him back to health and took him for walks on a trail in the Long Pond greenbelt near her home several times a week.
But on a Sunday morning last month, Zephyr went a few feet off the trail and walked into a spring-loaded grab trap that snapped its metal jaws shut around Zephyr's head, choking the dog.
"I couldn't get the trap off his head. Within two minutes, he was dead," Murphy said Tuesday. "I took him to an area I felt was safe for my whole 40 years. I saw his eyes looking at me like I was his protector, and I couldn't do anything."
The dog's death led Murphy and other local animal advocates to look for help from the town. On Feb. 28, Southampton Town is scheduled to hold a public hearing on a new law that would ban the use of grab traps on all town property, including parks and nature preserves.
Sara Davison, executive director of the Animal Rescue Fund of the Hamptons -- who lobbied for the new town law -- said she would like to see a ban on such grab traps everywhere on Long Island. "We were just horrified and outraged," she said. "Long Island is not some rural, upstate county."
The trap that killed Zephyr -- and which hunters use to hunt otters, raccoons, beavers and other game -- was placed on town-owned land preserved for park use and was legal, town officials said. The State Department of Environmental Conservation -- which regulates trapping -- generally allows hunters to place steel grab traps on undeveloped land as long as there are no "no hunting" signs posted, and the property is at least 100 feet away from homes or schools or churches.
Town officials said the hunter who placed the trap that killed Zephyr had a valid license, although the trap did not have a contact number, as required by state regulations. Currently, there is no town regulation in Southampton banning hunting on town property, although state law restricts the use of firearms.
Southampton Town Supervisor Patrick Heaney said while the town enjoys a rural atmosphere, there is no longer room for " ... baited traps in patches of woods adjacent to a residential community." Heaney said he also was worried about young children who might wander off a path.
The supervisor said he did not expect serious opposition to the proposed law. "We only have eight licensed trappers in Southampton," Heaney said.
The use of grab traps has been protested by various anti-fur groups, and several states have tried -- with different levels of success -- to ban or restrict them. The New Jersey Legislature passed a total ban on leghold traps in 1984.
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Post by Itrapny on Jan 18, 2006 20:31:02 GMT -5
It gets better fella's.....I think we should write some letter's and anyone close to the island may want to try and attend any meeting in support!!
HSUS Calls for Animal Cruelty Charges in Conibear Trap Death
January 10, 2006
WASHINGTON—The Humane Society of the United States today fired off a letter to Suffolk County District Attorney Thomas J. Spota calling for prosecution of the person responsible for killing a Sag Harbor resident's dog last month. The dog died after being captured in an illegal trap set in a Long Island forest. The HSUS is also urging the New York Legislature to support a bill that would give local jurisdictions authority to restrict or prohibit trapping.
According to The New York Post, Gail Murphy was out with her dog Zephyr in a forested area of Long Pond Greenbelt in the Hamptons when she heard a distinct snapping sound. Zephyr came running to Murphy with a large metal “Conibear” trap locked on his head. Murphy tried desperately to get the trap off, but Zephyr died in her arms in less than two minutes, according to the news report. The Conibear trap is said to have had no identification tags as required by law.
Ann Chynoweth, an attorney and director of The HSUS Animal Cruelty and Fighting Campaign underscored in her letter that the New York Department of Environmental Conservation and Southampton Town police “have credible evidence of unjustified animal cruelty as prohibited by New York law. As you know, it is a crime in New York to ‘unjustifiably’ kill an animal, whether wild or tame, and whether belonging to himself or another."
Years ago Suffolk County passed legislation to ban traps due to public safety and humane concerns. However, a court overturned the ruling, placing authority back into state hands. Consequently, state-level bills were introduced by New York State Senator Frank Padavan (S2142) and Assembly Member Alexander B. “Pete” Grannis (A1835) which give counties the much needed option of restricting or banning dangerous traps within municipal limits. The proposed legislation includes all types of traps, both Conibear and leghold. The bills must first pass through the Environmental Conservation Committees in order to become law. The Chairs of these committees are both Long Islanders: Assembly Member Thomas DiNapoli and Senator Carl Marcellino.
The New York Department of Environmental Conservation and Southampton Town police are investigating the case surrounding Zephyr’s death.
The court case cited was brought by NYS DEC because Suffolk County tried to usurp their authority
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Post by Hawken315 on Jan 20, 2006 7:35:07 GMT -5
If anyone finds any info on who to write to,or call for any support please list it .I would do what ever I can to fight this crap. Jay
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Post by herm on Jan 21, 2006 17:49:45 GMT -5
It occurred to me today while I was thinking about this Long Island trap deal, it has the same simular ring to it as some other trap incedent stories.Could there be a reason that so many traps that are set that hit the newspapers do not have a trap tag?Could it be that they cannot put a name to it becouse it is a made up story?
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