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Bud Boda
May 2, 2015 7:06:28 GMT -5
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Post by takedown on May 2, 2015 7:06:28 GMT -5
Want to pass on that but Boda passed away April 17 many old schoolers will know who he was
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Post by proratman on May 2, 2015 7:26:27 GMT -5
Sorry to hear that. I can still remember him doing his canine demo at Neil Olsens back in the early eighties. He was very captivating. Rest in peace.
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Zagman
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Post by Zagman on May 2, 2015 18:38:42 GMT -5
Wow.....I AM getting old....all the guys I used to get catalogs and lure and stuff from are leaving this earth......
I have his books.....lot's of stories about Bud, who seemed to be a colorful character, to say the least.....
His books made me more paranoid as a new trapper during the "Boom"......his "Trouble-Shooting Guide" is full of voo-doo stuff to make a new, nervous, lacking-confidence-trapper more of the same!
"If you cut a worm in half while digging your trap bed, chase down the other half, or you may end up with a digger canine when that other half rots...."
I am paraphrasing, but that is the gist of it.........good grief! No wonder I panicked and dripped sweat all over those first dirt holes back in the late 70's/early 80's!!!!
Still, like all authors back then, I am sure he helped me more than he hurt.....RIP Bud!
MZ
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austinp
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Post by austinp on May 2, 2015 19:45:49 GMT -5
I think some of that old-time mystique by many of the teachers in that era was genuinely believed and some of it was created for the "guru" effect. I certainly bought into it hook, line, sinker and bassrod from EJ Daily's books, along with other books and FFG articles. Made fox and mink seem like the shyest critters on earth. I often chuckle about mink articles warning trappers to stay in the water, don't touch the banks or vegetation with bare hands, etc. Fox and mink aren't dumb but they're not very shy, either. But of course we learned all that too many years later
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Post by herm on May 3, 2015 9:19:45 GMT -5
Bud was bringing his grandson to the nite hunts a few years ago. Unfortunetly , their dog was killed in the road and I have not seen them since.
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paintedpaw
Retired NYSDEC Lake George Ranger
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Post by paintedpaw on May 3, 2015 10:41:05 GMT -5
I met Budat Jhnny Thorpe's when John lived in Lake Vanare. How long ago was that. Always thoght he was full of a lot of bull, but I don't want to seak ill of the ded.
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Bud Boda
May 3, 2015 11:22:24 GMT -5
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Post by takedown on May 3, 2015 11:22:24 GMT -5
My dad was a true outdoorsman! I would love to share so many memories of our time out on the trap line! I have a ton of photos of years and years of trapping with Johnny Thorpe and so many great times. Many don't know but he shot the last bear ever killed on Mt saint Helens 4 days before the eruption. He was working for the DEC with ranchers who had huge livestock problems with the onset of the eruption!
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Post by jsevering on May 3, 2015 11:49:09 GMT -5
used your dads and johns mink lure,cant remember the name of it now, other than it was a true liquid form, back in the early eighties caught some mink with it... but was amazed at the weasels you would pick up around the beaver dam edges with it... sorry to hear of your dads passing... jim
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Bud Boda
May 3, 2015 13:29:24 GMT -5
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Post by takedown on May 3, 2015 13:29:24 GMT -5
Saranac mink was the lure. In fact I came across a couple dozen bottles when going through his shop last week. Along with a bunch of others.
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Post by brushwolf64 on May 3, 2015 14:11:57 GMT -5
Sorry to hear of Buds passing. I attended many of his demos back in the day. He and Willis kent used to team up a lot and do demos if my memory serves me correctly.Takedown if you get the time and wish to share pics and memories im sure all here would love to see them. Condolences to you and your family.
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Post by proratman on May 3, 2015 18:41:25 GMT -5
X2. Would love to see photos of your dad!
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austinp
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Post by austinp on May 3, 2015 19:37:43 GMT -5
Saranac mink was the lure. In fact I came across a couple dozen bottles when going through his shop last week. Along with a bunch of others. if it hammered weasels as noted above, it most likely had weasel musk as a main ingredient is my guess. Mink are supposedly weasel killers and I think it was Fuller Laugman (sic) who told me that weasel musk is a real magnet for mink, fox, coyotes, otter, etc. I wrote some magazine articles about weasel trapping that were published more than 30 years ago now and he responded out of the blue asking if I had weasel glands in quantity to sell. Needless to say, that is a very limited quantity lure ingredient these days. 30+ years ago? God... I'm almost as old as Flatiron and Zagman now!
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Post by flatiron on May 3, 2015 19:48:50 GMT -5
RIP Bud! Seen at a couple of night hunts, could tell a good story too.
Austin, you and MZ were wearing diapers when I was trapping, sad part I may be wearing while you two are still limping around.
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tmc
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Post by tmc on May 3, 2015 20:13:10 GMT -5
lol!!! Now I can't eat. Thanks a lot!
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Post by rendezvous on May 4, 2015 7:46:38 GMT -5
My first Trapping book('78-'79?) was Bud Boda's Fox-Trappers Shop Manual, used his lures too. Thank you Mr. Boda and Rest in Peace...
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Post by psb1011 on May 4, 2015 17:29:19 GMT -5
Saranac mink was the lure. In fact I came across a couple dozen bottles when going through his shop last week. Along with a bunch of others. if it hammered weasels as noted above, it most likely had weasel musk as a main ingredient is my guess. Mink are supposedly weasel killers and I think it was Fuller Laugman (sic) who told me that weasel musk is a real magnet for mink, fox, coyotes, otter, etc. I wrote some magazine articles about weasel trapping that were published more than 30 years ago now and he responded out of the blue asking if I had weasel glands in quantity to sell. Needless to say, that is a very limited quantity lure ingredient these days. 30+ years ago? God... I'm almost as old as Flatiron and Zagman now! You two,(Zagman,and Austin),are young puppys compared to me. And I think I can kick both yo arses,lol
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austinp
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Post by austinp on May 4, 2015 17:49:29 GMT -5
]You two,(Zagman,and Austin),are young puppys compared to me. And I think I can kick both yo arses, lol after four days straight of 3:30am wake-ups to go chase big bird around in the woods, I'm feeling about as vigorous as a road-killed possum. I have no idea how you run those hours for weeks at a time thru fox season... I'm sleeping in until 6am tomorrow! saw the first bee swarm about 20' up in a willow tree today. Pretty soon I'll be climbing ladders higher than I should be to try and fetch stinging bugs that mean to do me serious harm if given the chance. It's to the point where I question my sanity on a daily basis lately.
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Post by psb1011 on May 4, 2015 18:17:07 GMT -5
My strongest hive,way too strong for this early had queen cells built with royal jelly in them two days ago. My mentor gave me last ditch instructions to try to avoid them swarming. Swarming----my biggest mountain to climb to avoid for honey production.
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austinp
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Post by austinp on May 4, 2015 18:43:05 GMT -5
My strongest hive,way too strong for this early had queen cells built with royal jelly in them two days ago. My mentor gave me last ditch instructions to try to avoid them swarming. Swarming----my biggest mountain to climb to avoid for honey production. what we do here is split those hives in half, leaving one or two queen cells per half and remove any others for new nucs soon as any nectar flow is on. For us that is dandelion and apple blossoms real soon. By late fall both hives will be strong as your others if not stronger and full of honey. I let all my hives requeen naturally and one of the most enjoyable parts is hearing those new queens "trumpeting" in the boxes when they first hatch. A very distinct sound you'll never forget after hearing. But I digress, and don't mean to derail this thread and its meaning. imo Bud Boda was one of the old-time educators who taught lots of us some new ways of thinking and I do recall massive piles of coon catches in his pictures, back in the day when coon money was big money for real
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Post by psb1011 on May 4, 2015 18:51:39 GMT -5
I had that option also,chose another rout,Locoust trees bloom in about 3 weeks,and we down here don't have Basswood and other later blooming plants to rely on.Our honey flow is oever -end of July at best. I read Bud Boda died numerous places,I never meet him personally,but may he rest in peace. Threads most always take turns away from original post.Never understood why some dislike that I think those type people should live in a library,where everything is numbered,and lettered,and on a shelf where it is supposed to belong.
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austinp
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Post by austinp on May 4, 2015 20:06:38 GMT -5
up here we have locust and basswood, wild roses, wild apples, Russian olives, then all the clovers & legumes, then all the various wildflowers during mid-summer. Our latest flow is the biggest, goldenrod and aster. But the late season honeys are darker, less desirable than early flows. I keep my bees on a rather large sunflower operation and that bloom is August so that's my big producer. You must have various clovers (other than red) down there in farm country for mid-summer, but I understand the further south one goes, the less nectar there is. Probably why North Dakota and Wisconsin are the two biggest honey-producer states in the U.S. In your case you can play games with swarmy hives, split them for a few days and then put them back together to mimic a swarm-out, remove the old queen and let new ones supercede, etc. Sometimes those manipulations work, sometimes not. Locust honey is awesome, so is basswood but by far my all-time favorite is alfalfa. If/when a farmer lets their hayfield bloom, it makes a honey so clear it's almost translucent and to-die-for nectar taste. Best of all clovers, I guess. Bees are fascinating. I've worked with them for about ten years now. After all the money spent gearing up in the early years, I'm on autopilot now. Sold a few tons of bulk honey in 5-gal buckets to at least break-even the costs
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Post by oldtimer on May 4, 2015 20:21:37 GMT -5
years past maby40 or so bud and i were trapping the same ground in odessa ny. well we would cross paths every few days and lie about how meny fox we took off some farm in are travels. and said we wernt catching any possom. may heHAVE etineral trapping luck in the happy hunting grounds and RIP.
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Post by seaflea on Jun 8, 2015 7:29:46 GMT -5
Bud was a entertaining and knowledgeable trapper. I took a weeks long instruction from him when I was 17 yrs old. I quickly was wailing the snot out of the fox and coyotes in the area I lived. I went on to do some state hopping for a few years until the ,80s fur boom busted, the went to college. Bud taught me all I needed to get started and a lot was learned from that point on. I used to stop in and see him every so often and he was always a gracious host. I used a couple of his lures for many years and had great success with them. I remember my first coyote, caught in a boda style modified victor 1 1/2 coilspring with Boda's "blue" fox lure. I was so excited, I called him at home that evening and blabbed like a little kid. (I was still a kid!) I will always have fond memories of him, and every time I catch another fox or coyote, I'm sure I will think of him. RIP Bud.
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Post by mole on Jun 9, 2015 8:38:19 GMT -5
Bud Boda doing a Demo at NYSTA convention
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Post by falconed on Jun 11, 2015 7:35:50 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about Bud. I saw him once at Neil Olsens I believe it was in 1983 My oldest son was about 5 then and Bud gave him a .22 shell with a turquoise stone in place of the bullet. Bud told him that when he reached my age(32 then) come see him and he would give him a packbasket full of trapping stuff in exchange for the .22 bullet. I still have a couple of his books and did use his lures. How old was he when he passed away?
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