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Post by bmtrapper on Sept 22, 2014 18:56:30 GMT -5
I purchased some used traps this year and they had speed dip on them. I went to boil them and they seemed oily and they turned dis color (grayish). They also have a smell to them like blacktop, is this normal? I've never speed dip before ,I use dye. Hopefully this is normal or I think I will need to strip them clean. Any suggestion would be helpful. Thanks
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Post by mole on Sept 22, 2014 20:04:01 GMT -5
The speed dip or whatever is on them really should be removed. not a fun job. I would take one and give it a vinegar soak for a couple days and then scrub it to see what happens. if it comes off then do the rest. Hopefully someone else can offer a better plan. Good Luck.
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Post by bmtrapper on Sept 22, 2014 20:35:42 GMT -5
Thanks Mr. Mole , I will give that a try. I will let you know how it works.
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Post by REDNECK on Sept 22, 2014 20:40:31 GMT -5
Use low grade gas and a stiff brush I took off all mine this year I even used high grade parts cleaner gas did a better kid let sit for a bit in gas after boil in dawn let air out for a few days dye then wax good luck
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Post by camohoyt340 on Sept 22, 2014 20:49:37 GMT -5
I also removed some speed dip this past summer. We have a parts washer at work. I let them soak in parts washing solvent for 6 hours then pulled them out and most of the dip was gone. Then I used the parts washing brush and brushed the rest off. I rinsed them water. It worked very well. I spent less than one minute per trap. One thing, they cleaned up better when disassembled. I did some that were assembled and there was a bit of dip on the pan bolt. And in the springs and where the springs contact the levers.
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Post by swampdad on Sept 23, 2014 7:24:30 GMT -5
Boil them in lye.
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Post by hdspratley on Sept 23, 2014 9:37:29 GMT -5
Boil them for a good long while in the works bathroom cleaner...
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Post by bearman60 on Sept 23, 2014 11:04:52 GMT -5
boil seperately from other traps then wash in vinegar,rinse and air dry
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Post by bmtrapper on Sept 23, 2014 19:45:03 GMT -5
Thanks guys I'm going to try soaking them in the vinegar solution 50/50 ,1/2vinegar with 1/2 water . Then try wire brush and high pressure hose. I'll post pic to show results.
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Post by REDNECK on Sept 23, 2014 20:03:30 GMT -5
After using the works does it smell or can I wax after
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Post by trappermac on Sept 24, 2014 4:10:30 GMT -5
Besy way to remove speed dip is gas, white gas or solvent as mentioned...basically what is used to put it on is used to take it off, brushing speeds it up. Then wash in "the works", rinse well, dye or wax or both afterwards.
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Post by austinp on Sept 24, 2014 4:46:59 GMT -5
if you want to take rusted traps back to bare metal that have been dipped, only gas or other solvents will do that. You cannot boil away petroleum based dips with lye solutions or soak in vinegar to remove it all from rusted traps that soaked dip into the open metal pores. but you can boil them in lye = the works (same thing, lye base) and then logwood dye & wax. Any lingering dip odors will be the same as skunk sprayed traps redyed, etc. Just dye, wax and set without regard to any of that. I used to dip traps and probably still would, but in all reality the toughest coating that becomes rock hard and completely odor free is paint. From now on, I'm just spray painting all of my land or water traps and that's it, done
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Post by kirkwooder on Sept 24, 2014 7:32:30 GMT -5
Austin, Do you find that you need to repaint your traps every year? And is there a brand of paint you prefer? I have sprayed all my water traps the last couple of years and they have needed a freshen up each fall. I am now worried about build up where the paint isn't worn off, if this continues for a number of years.
B.T.W. love the painted traps!
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Post by oldman50 on Sept 24, 2014 8:03:17 GMT -5
Wow, still don't know what's wrong with speed dip. I have used it for as many years as it's been around with no problems whatsoever. It's not broke, so I'm not fixin it!
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Post by austinp on Sept 24, 2014 8:15:48 GMT -5
all dips are fine with me... just more work and mess and longer drying time than I care to deal with my painted traps need touch-up after catch scrapes... but so do dipped traps. I now prefer to just lay out or hang my traps, spray bomb them from paint cans and that's it, nothing else
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Post by trappermac on Sept 25, 2014 7:44:15 GMT -5
Nothing prettier than a freshly cleaned, dyed, then waxed trap……almost hate to get them dirty. Speed dips and/or paints…..yeah, for water traps, or if you’re looking for the easy way out, short cuts, don’t care to partake in the great tradition of dyeing and waxing, don’t need that extra bit of firing lubrication and protection wax gives your traps. Nope, nothing like a dark, dyed and waxed coilspring....
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Post by austinp on Sept 25, 2014 12:28:14 GMT -5
wax smells, and it picks up odors. Dry paint is harder and odorless. In my spare time saved from dye & wax, I have much better things to do with life
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2014 12:47:20 GMT -5
I have much better things to do with life Like what?
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Post by austinp on Sept 25, 2014 16:36:58 GMT -5
catch up on, finish and get ahead of all my work by/before 10/25 at 7am
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Post by 2labs on Sept 26, 2014 6:14:55 GMT -5
Brake cleaner will remove speed dip.
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Post by tmc on Sept 26, 2014 7:14:38 GMT -5
2labs, I've used gasoline and know that it works relatively fast, how does brake cleaner work, i.e. how fast, how completely, etc.?
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Post by cnyh2ofowler on Sept 26, 2014 7:20:44 GMT -5
This year I dipped all of my traps in a mixture of 1 quart flat brown rustoleum, 1 quart rusty metal primer rustoleum, 2 quarts acetone after 3 dips with a drying time of 24 hours between dips, I hung them outside for 2 weeks. The coating is great and after 2 weeks no smell. I put the leftover in a paint can and will use it to dip anything that needs it during the season. We will see how it works.
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Post by 2labs on Sept 26, 2014 8:04:56 GMT -5
Brake cleaner is fast, hang them and spray them. cleans them really well. It will clean the dip off completly .
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Post by tmc on Sept 26, 2014 8:20:53 GMT -5
Great! Thanks. I think it'd also be a good degreaser on new traps, I'll try it out.
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Post by hdspratley on Sept 26, 2014 20:11:38 GMT -5
I pull them out of the boiling worx and water mix rinse them real good with clean water from the hose, then hang for a week to so they rust up, then I dye and wax....its worked for me for a long time...does a real good job too.
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