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Post by austinp on May 22, 2013 7:45:57 GMT -5
Back from the annual weekend trip to Black Lake for turkeys and fish. Seemed to be fewer birds overall this year... passed up a number of jakes, only got to work one real strutter bird who eluded my efforts last day.
Each time I go up north, I hear some type of bird in the darkness and early mornings that flies up in the air and flutters around, making a swooshing kind of noise with its wings. They are everywhere around the greater Black Lake area, anywhere wetlands and open fields are.
Can someone tell me what they are? We do not have them here and for the life of me I could not get a visual i.d. They left me totally stumped and curious as to what bird that is.
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Post by gimtilly on May 22, 2013 7:49:57 GMT -5
Not trying to be a smarta$$.. Could it possibly be bats?
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austinp
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Post by austinp on May 22, 2013 7:56:33 GMT -5
I don't think so... the wings are quite loud and sound bird-like, something similar to pigeons landing or taking off but softer. I've been around birds all my life and to me it sure sounds like some type of bird feeding or displaying. Now that I think about it, I heard them all morning long back in March 2012 when spring trapping. I could never get a visual up-close to what it was... so I'm open to any input
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Post by 2labs on May 22, 2013 8:53:20 GMT -5
Would they be Woodcocks? Doing their mateing flight? I have seen them around here !
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Post by Zagman on May 22, 2013 9:29:14 GMT -5
I think goatsuckers or whip or wills or nighthawks......
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Post by Lonny Mattison on May 22, 2013 9:53:36 GMT -5
TIMBERDOODLES?
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Post by austinp on May 22, 2013 10:09:49 GMT -5
not woodcock... I'm familiar with those around here. Could be snipe if they are prevalent up north, could be whippoorwills as I did hear their verbal calls in the darkness, too
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Post by walleyed on May 22, 2013 11:09:10 GMT -5
Back from the annual weekend trip to Black Lake. Each time I go up north, I hear some type of bird in the darkness and early mornings that flies up in the air and flutters around. Can someone tell me what they are? They left me totally stumped and curious as to what bird that is. CHUPACABRA !!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D OR: CRAYFISH !!!! w
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austinp
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Post by austinp on May 22, 2013 11:10:18 GMT -5
of all people here, I expected walleyed to know. now I know he knows not
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Post by keith on May 22, 2013 11:17:17 GMT -5
Grouse. They do a good job drumming up a mate.
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Post by austinp on May 22, 2013 11:42:05 GMT -5
100% not grouse... although I heard tons of drumming all morning
these are airborne birds... it is an airborne noise thru feathers
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Post by austinp on May 22, 2013 11:45:06 GMT -5
on a side note for CLT... the coyote sign and vocalizations around Fish Creek unit and Drum were absolutely off the hook. You cannot lay your hat down on a bare patch of dirt or granite rock pile without covering coyote droppings. And first two mornings afield there was so much coyote singing and yodeling that toms shut right down from gobbling the minute they left trees.
there are waaaaay more coyotes up north around you than we had here at the densest numbers ever. the comparison between coyote trapping potential north versus western part of NY ain't even in the same conversation. you are yote loaded up there!
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2013 13:38:31 GMT -5
They are 100% snipe. They are amazing to see this time of year. I was also at Black Lake fishing last weekend. THAT AREA LOOKS GREAT FOR TRAPPING.
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Post by Adirondack-Jim on May 22, 2013 14:43:16 GMT -5
How were the ticks?
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Post by walleyed on May 22, 2013 15:08:01 GMT -5
of all people here, I expected walleyed to know. now I know he knows not I hear the Dang Things up here every morning, along with all the other Birds noises. They ALL just make so much of a racket that I can't hear my intended target with the RED HEAD gobbling. There are so many birds Squawking, Chirping, Honking, Quacking, Peeping, Clicking, Cawing, Croaking, and Warbling that I can't hear myself think. I'd Like to hear silence, and gobbling at dawn for just one morning. And I'd like to be able to shoot straight. Whatever birds are making all that noise, I'd just wish they'd SHUT UP !! ;D walleyed
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Post by gimtilly on May 22, 2013 17:46:38 GMT -5
And I'd like to be able to shoot straight. walleyed Haha! That too..
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Post by redneck315ers on May 22, 2013 20:44:19 GMT -5
dove lol i know not dove but what u said sounds like one walleyed u r one funny man
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Post by duckslayer12 on May 23, 2013 7:13:55 GMT -5
there are waaaaay more coyotes up north around you than we had here at the densest numbers ever. the comparison between coyote trapping potential north versus western part of NY ain't even in the same conversation. you are yote loaded up there!
Austin, DEC releases pheasants at Fish Creek for the opening weekend of duck. I go there every year and the Coyotes have all of them gone the first night. All that is left is piles of feathers.
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Post by austinp on May 23, 2013 7:22:41 GMT -5
there were twelve of us this year, and we stay in a friend's place on Back Bay off Co Rd #6. Some of the guys hunted state land west / southwest of the lake, some of us hunted Fish Creek, some went to Drum later on. Everybody commented on the incessant coyote vocalizations and droppings everywhere... none of that exists down here in our region, thank God
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Post by walleyed on May 23, 2013 8:16:19 GMT -5
there were twelve of us this year, and we stay in a friend's place on Back Bay off Co Rd #6. Some of the guys hunted state land west / southwest of the lake, some of us hunted Fish Creek, some went to Drum later on. Everybody commented on the incessant coyote vocalizations and droppings everywhere... none of that exists down here in our region, thank God SO, It's your opinion, Austin, that: It is a Coyote, dressed up in a feathered Bird Costume, Leaping and jumping through the Air that is Generating all that racket ? W
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austinp
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Post by austinp on May 23, 2013 8:24:49 GMT -5
yes... forget the snipe theory... it was coyotes :0
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Post by fisherman on May 23, 2013 10:34:56 GMT -5
Austin what you heard were Oh No birds. They have 3" legs and 6" testicles. Whenever they come in for a landing they yellout "Oh No!"
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Post by gobbler11 on May 23, 2013 16:02:40 GMT -5
I agree the turkey numbers at least in the north country are down. I've hunted the Redwood area eight days now and only scored on one longbeard. We are not seeing the birds as in past years. I believe we are missing those vocal two year olds that do most of the gobbling and most of the dieing. The three year olds are going silent after they hit the ground not so much because of coyotes but because of hens. I've watched it first hand several times this year.
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Post by austinp on May 25, 2013 13:32:32 GMT -5
Austin what you heard were Oh No birds. They have 3" legs and 6" testicles. Whenever they come in for a landing they yellout "Oh No!" lol... that hilarious!
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Post by austinp on May 25, 2013 13:38:25 GMT -5
I agree the turkey numbers at least in the north country are down. I've hunted the Redwood area eight days now and only scored on one longbeard. We are not seeing the birds as in past years. I believe we are missing those vocal two year olds that do most of the gobbling and most of the dieing. The three year olds are going silent after they hit the ground not so much because of coyotes but because of hens. I've watched it first hand several times this year. yup... definitely missing something, probably most of a year-class due to that ultra-harsh winter of 2010-11. Most people have forgotten how long and brutal it was due to the past two open winters that followed. But spring of 2011 would have been this year's 2yr old hatch we saw and heard a mere fraction of the toms this year versus past three. my usual little honey hole which was always loaded with toms was empty this year except for one strutter that evaded me. other places same... all jakes, no longbeards visible but, next spring should be solid to stellar. it's always a pleasure being out there, listening to the woods and wetlands awaken with melody of mixed songbirds singing in sweet harmony agreed, walleyed? <grin>
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