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Post by broadhorizons on Jan 30, 2013 12:11:53 GMT -5
Walleyed's post about the "swinging suzies" got me thinking and I've now got a question about them.
For the guys that use baited conis under ice...
Do you see a difference in success if you let the coni "swing" or if you have it rigid with a pole through both spring eyes and stuck in bottom?
Or is it just a matter of convenience not having to find a long pole?
Thanks, Andy
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Post by papabear on Jan 30, 2013 12:39:35 GMT -5
Dear Friend, Prefer to have the trap swinging. Less chance of a beaver bumping the pole and firing the trap. Regards
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Post by walleyed on Jan 30, 2013 13:43:20 GMT -5
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Do you see a difference in success if you let the coni "swing" or if you have it rigid with a pole through both spring eyes and stuck in bottom?
Or is it just a matter of convenience not having to find a long pole?
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Funny you should ask that, and Papabear's response appears to make a lot of sense.
If I am trapping Muskrat with baited Conibears, I absolutely want the trap jaws to be vertical and a pole or stake wedged thru the spring eye in a vertical position.
I find I have almost NO MISSES on muskrat when positioning the trap, and securing it in this fashion.
However, When I set the #110 or #160 with the Jaws positioned Horizontally, I had about 75% Misses.
I don't ever set baited Muskrat traps that way when using baited, under-Ice sets now.
In the last three trap nights with "Swinging Shirley's" Baited #330s at this particular lodge, with the trap jaws positioned horizontally, I am ONE FOR FOUR with three misses.
Normally it is a lot easier and quicker to Deploy "Swinging whatever her name is" sets, than going with the #330 mounted vertically on a pole through the spring eyes which is more time consuming to deploy.
Overall, as near as I can figure, over a Lifetime of through the Ice Trapping so far, I have had fewer misses with the Vertical Pole setup when trapping Beaver. However, Shallow Water Depth in the Beaver Pond will dictate whether or not this vertical setup can be used effectively.
When I reset this colony after the Ice firms up again, I will employ 2 vertical pole sets, and two "Swinging Sally" sets and see which type ends up being more deadly.
walleyed
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Post by anders on Jan 30, 2013 14:28:49 GMT -5
I think the swinging suzi set works best with deep water, just under the ice. The beaver will reach and stabilize himself with the bottom jaw and commit his head into the trap for the bait. In shallow water if he can touch bottom to stabilize I believe he reaches for the bait with his front feet and thus more misses. Just my thoughts on it.
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Post by proratman on Jan 30, 2013 15:44:41 GMT -5
I know that I am getting off of the subject here. But here is a little tip that works great for me when under ice trapping. Attach the bait stick to the trap with white electrical tape. It adds great eye appeal and is a lot easier to work with than wire.
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Post by papabear on Jan 30, 2013 15:55:04 GMT -5
Dear Friend, when using the hanging baited bodygrip it is important to squeeze the triggers together and slide them all the way to one side. The beaver will grab the bait with its front feet as it swims through the trap. Sliding the triggers to one side near ensures the beaver is between the jaws before the trap fires. Regards
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Post by fisherman on Jan 31, 2013 10:53:04 GMT -5
Great tip proratman, wish I had thought of that. So much easier!
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