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Post by blueballedkid33 on Jan 14, 2013 23:14:44 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2013 23:26:55 GMT -5
My 22 is an assault rifle.....lol
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Post by coondogger on Jan 14, 2013 23:49:29 GMT -5
It will get worse..much, much worse. By the way, this passed, 36-18, yah, that close..
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Post by mole on Jan 15, 2013 6:34:32 GMT -5
I have been wondering about some guns and classifications.The old Remington Nylon 66 I believe held 17 Rounds in a tubular magazine. My Ruger BlackHawk was labeled a Saturday Night Special due to it failed the drop test.
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Post by herm on Jan 15, 2013 7:22:58 GMT -5
My state senator is upset because he was a sponsor of the first responder bill and they stuck it in the gun bill.This was done because of all the current hype about the Webster shootings to help pass the gun bill.The next time elections are held you will see adds the say he voted againts protecting our first responders,when in fact he voted againts the gun bill.Dirty dealings going on in Albany.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2013 7:28:26 GMT -5
Good question Mole? Your old .22 may now be an assault rifle. To be fair,the new coalition in the republican senate helped push this one through. It wouldn't have made it otherwise. With the current progressive liberal agenda of those on both sides or the table,how do you think those anti-trapping bills will fare in the near future?
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Post by herm on Jan 15, 2013 7:58:18 GMT -5
NYS gun laws are complacated enough already.I still dont know for sure if we can open carry with a handgun in NYS.Contacted several persons who should know,lawyers,police SCOPE,etc.,60% say you cant and 40% say you can.Others say you can while hunting but cant produce the law that excludes consealed carry while hunting.Of all the people that responded there is an exception for hunting while in the field on the consealed carry ,they can not come up with that law either althow the is an exception type of lincense for hunting.No one would say they knew the answer if you were allowed to unconseal a handgun and use it while out in the field trapping.The best answer I would get is"thats a good question".
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Post by hardwoodcharlie on Jan 15, 2013 8:21:38 GMT -5
And how is this improving the safety of our children? Oh wait that's right it's not about that,it's about holding the law abiding gun owners accountable for the actions of the criminals,now we pay fines for there actions the politicians get more money and we all live in a perfect world.
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Post by skunkman on Jan 15, 2013 8:37:44 GMT -5
Heres a quick question for anyone that can make any sense of all this B.S. - Did this paragraph just make it illegal to have a private transfer of a firearm without a dealer doing a background check first ? And also, I wonder if they will also require a background check on the seller ?
ARTICLE 39-DDD 26 PRIVATE SALE OR DISPOSAL OF FIREARMS, RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS 27 SECTION 898. PRIVATE SALE OR DISPOSAL OF FIREARMS, RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS. 28 S 898. PRIVATE SALE OR DISPOSAL OF FIREARMS, RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS. 1. 29 IN ADDITION TO ANY OTHER REQUIREMENTS PURSUANT TO STATE AND FEDERAL LAW, 30 ALL SALES, EXCHANGES OR DISPOSALS OF FIREARMS, RIFLES OR SHOTGUNS SHALL 31 BE CONDUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS SECTION UNLESS SUCH SALE, EXCHANGE 32 OR DISPOSAL IS CONDUCTED BY A LICENSED IMPORTER, LICENSED MANUFACTURER 33 OR LICENSED DEALER, AS THOSE TERMS ARE DEFINED IN 18 USC S 922, WHEN 34 SUCH SALE, EXCHANGE OR DISPOSAL IS CONDUCTED PURSUANT TO THAT PERSON'S 35 FEDERAL FIREARMS LICENSE OR SUCH SALE, EXCHANGE OR DISPOSAL IS BETWEEN 36 MEMBERS OF AN IMMEDIATE FAMILY. FOR PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION, "IMMEDIATE 37 FAMILY" SHALL MEAN SPOUSES, DOMESTIC PARTNERS, CHILDREN AND STEP-CHIL- 38 DREN. 39 2. BEFORE ANY SALE, EXCHANGE OR DISPOSAL PURSUANT TO THIS ARTICLE, A 40 NATIONAL INSTANT CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK MUST BE COMPLETED BY A DEALER 41 WHO CONSENTS TO CONDUCT SUCH CHECK, AND UPON COMPLETION OF SUCH BACK- 42 GROUND CHECK, SHALL COMPLETE A DOCUMENT, THE FORM OF WHICH SHALL BE 43 APPROVED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT OF STATE POLICE, THAT IDENTIFIES AND 44 CONFIRMS THAT SUCH CHECK WAS PERFORMED.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2013 9:30:31 GMT -5
Yup, you can't just go to a gun show and buy a gun. They got rid of the loophloe.
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Post by blueballedkid33 on Jan 15, 2013 10:13:15 GMT -5
I believe that there was something reguarding purchases online also
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2013 10:37:00 GMT -5
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Post by jimd on Jan 15, 2013 11:24:35 GMT -5
You dont have to turn in guns. You can still buy assault rifles but you to register them and the clip cant hold any more than 7 rounds. You have to sell thru a dealer so they can do the background check on the buyer
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Post by coondogger on Jan 15, 2013 12:38:14 GMT -5
Heres a quick question for anyone that can make any sense of all this B.S. - Did this paragraph just make it illegal to have a private transfer of a firearm without a dealer doing a background check first ? And also, I wonder if they will also require a background check on the seller ? ARTICLE 39-DDD 26 PRIVATE SALE OR DISPOSAL OF FIREARMS, RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS 27 SECTION 898. PRIVATE SALE OR DISPOSAL OF FIREARMS, RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS. 28 S 898. PRIVATE SALE OR DISPOSAL OF FIREARMS, RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS. 1. 29 IN ADDITION TO ANY OTHER REQUIREMENTS PURSUANT TO STATE AND FEDERAL LAW, 30 ALL SALES, EXCHANGES OR DISPOSALS OF FIREARMS, RIFLES OR SHOTGUNS SHALL 31 BE CONDUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS SECTION UNLESS SUCH SALE, EXCHANGE 32 OR DISPOSAL IS CONDUCTED BY A LICENSED IMPORTER, LICENSED MANUFACTURER 33 OR LICENSED DEALER, AS THOSE TERMS ARE DEFINED IN 18 USC S 922, WHEN 34 SUCH SALE, EXCHANGE OR DISPOSAL IS CONDUCTED PURSUANT TO THAT PERSON'S 35 FEDERAL FIREARMS LICENSE OR SUCH SALE, EXCHANGE OR DISPOSAL IS BETWEEN 36 MEMBERS OF AN IMMEDIATE FAMILY. FOR PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION, "IMMEDIATE 37 FAMILY" SHALL MEAN SPOUSES, DOMESTIC PARTNERS, CHILDREN AND STEP-CHIL- 38 DREN. 39 2. BEFORE ANY SALE, EXCHANGE OR DISPOSAL PURSUANT TO THIS ARTICLE, A 40 NATIONAL INSTANT CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK MUST BE COMPLETED BY A DEALER 41 WHO CONSENTS TO CONDUCT SUCH CHECK, AND UPON COMPLETION OF SUCH BACK- 42 GROUND CHECK, SHALL COMPLETE A DOCUMENT, THE FORM OF WHICH SHALL BE 43 APPROVED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT OF STATE POLICE, THAT IDENTIFIES AND 44 CONFIRMS THAT SUCH CHECK WAS PERFORMED. OK...I'll help where I can. Gunshow loophole was closed years ago..not in this law Private sales to someone you know (friend)or don't, needs to have a background check done on buyer, not seller..ffl needs to keep paperwork on transaction can charge upto $10..(that's in the senete bill) No more assualt weapons will be sold in the state of ny, ever..(I think).. No confiscation, but registration, 1 year to register your assult weapon, then must reregister every 5 years with mental eval in order to keep it. No online ammo purchases, must have a background check done to purchase ammo once system is set up.. Post any other questions, i'll try to answer them for you..
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Post by keith on Jan 15, 2013 13:35:18 GMT -5
Ammo will get more expensive. With all the red tape the next generation will not own firearms. Fifty years from now guns will be banned. The lessons of the American revolution forgotten. Then what ?
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Post by milkie62 on Jan 15, 2013 14:33:57 GMT -5
Is 2016 coming or 1776 ?
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Post by coondogger on Jan 15, 2013 15:09:14 GMT -5
I don't know..what I do know is we just got shafted without the lube, and it hurt..I don't take to kindly to that rough treatment, but not sure what we do about it. Looking at legal ways right now..
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Post by milkie62 on Jan 15, 2013 18:37:01 GMT -5
I do not know all the workings to it but here is a story.My son does downhill bike racing.Three early 20's guys from Austrailia stopped at our house for dinner that ride with him.They said all their guns were basically taken one day.If you want to go shooting or hunting or must go to the local police station and sign it out.They could not believe we can do what we do here.They told me in a blink it could all change like it did where they are.Like I said i do not know all the workings but that is how it was told to me by the Austrailians.
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Post by milkie62 on Jan 15, 2013 18:39:42 GMT -5
How many honest gun owners are going to stick together now if it comes down to jail time ?
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Post by oldeman on Jan 15, 2013 19:50:51 GMT -5
There will be the catch 22. They will make the offenses that you can be jailed for felonies so bingo there goes your rights to own a gun even under the old laws.
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Post by oldeman on Jan 15, 2013 19:59:02 GMT -5
I just checked and my old marlin 22 semi auto with tube mag is also an assault rifle and probably a lot of others, looks like I will have to give up squirrel hunting.
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Post by traphead2 on Jan 15, 2013 20:18:46 GMT -5
Blah blah blah mumbo jumbo.......gotta be a rocket scientist and a attorney to understand that hogwash.....our problem is that those in power both in state and federal goverment are all mentally inbred .
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Post by ztbowtech on Jan 15, 2013 20:28:55 GMT -5
ok what are exactly the detains on what guns are illegal and what not?
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Post by coondogger on Jan 15, 2013 21:18:07 GMT -5
Guns that are illegal: semi-auto accept a detachable mag of more than 7 rounds, have any of the "evil" features pistol grip, collisable stock, bayonet lug, ect, ect, ect.. Not illegal: Bolt, lever, semi-auto, tube fed. single shot..ect. Pistol: semi-auto, detachable mag that accepts more than 7 rounds, barrel shrould.. If you go here: NYFIREARMS.com and browse, there are alot of threads going dealing with all aspects of this stuff..also go here and sign petition and get in on the class action lawsuit being launched against NYS: nysecond.org/Lots of info gents, just gotta look..any questions pm me or ask here, i'll help best i can..
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Post by ztbowtech on Jan 15, 2013 21:27:15 GMT -5
so my bennlli 3 1/2 with a pistol grip is illegal. it holds 7 low base loads. what about my r15 204?
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