I've had great success with the 1 oz. 12 GA. 2 3/4" Federal Barnes hollow point slugs on deer - fine accuracy and the deer drop like stones when hit. The bullets mushroom great This year early on, I wasn't able to find the hollow points. I spotted the new polymer tipped versions and had heard that they have a better ballistic coefficient. Trouble is I got the 3/4 oz. version but would have got the 1 oz version to match the weight of what I'd been using. Gander Mountain won't do an exchange - Federal Law. Have any of you been using the polymer tipper version and what's your experience? How have the 3/4 oz. versions vs. the 1 oz. versions been working out? I have myself and three sons, and an 8 box supply!! At current prices, I'm tempted to go back to loading slugs cast from a Lyman mold.
it basically plays out like this, the 3/4 should be far better a choice from what is presented. it (the 3/4) will be coming out of the barrel 450 fps faster and have about 600 more foot pounds of energy. at 125 yards, it will have about 300 more foot pounds of energy than the 1 oz fed/barnes would. with a 100 yd zero, the 3/4 should shoot approx. 1.4 inches flatter. hope this helps and i hope you dont go broke shooting those deer. ;D
If you look at federals data, it seems obvious that they have their charts mixed up on the 3/4 inch. the poly tipped appears to have the data for the non poly tipped. They both start out with the same gusto but the ballistic coefficient will give the poly tipped the edge of having less drag. contradictory to what they listed. the poly tipped should be better than the non. if both 1oz and 3/4 oz were non poly tipped, i would choose the 1oz. for better downrange energy and trajectory. luke
vutvut - Thanks for the feedback. I didn't check Federal's website for ballistics, but will now. I talked to a friend the other day who hunts with a larger group than I do. Based on what he's seen, he too thought the 3/4 oz poly-tipped version was very good - and the right choice between the two. No real reason it shouldn't work; years ago we used to handload 7/8 oz hollow point slugs and had very good luck with them. Slugs from 20 ga. and muzzle loaders would not necessarily be any heavier. I hope I lucked out; I'll just have to see how they group from our Hastings barrels. He used the Winchester platinum tip slugs this season and had very good results accuracy wise and with performance on deer out of his Tar-Hut shotgun. But he said the 3/4 oz Barnes didn't group well from that gun.
Post by buckhunter649 on Dec 11, 2007 22:20:54 GMT -5
All slugs shoot different out of different guns. Why? I don't know. But I have seen it for 30+ yrs. Every year if a manufacturer changes his slugs I have to go down and resight. I used to touch holes with my scope sighted 37 12 gauge deerslayer with the old Remington 7/8 ounce. Then they changed something. Now lucky to get a 3-4 inch group. If I'm hunting a stand somewhere where a long shot is possible, I take my Knight muzzleloader.
Buckhunter - we used to load the 7/8 Meyer Brothers slugs back in the 60's and early 70's until we couldn't get them any more. They were great: they were hollow point and were swaged to split into three separate pieces. The key to loading them seemed to be to used a fiber wad that would expand the base into the full diameter of the bore. We shot them from an Ithaca Mod. 37 Deerslayer too. I had one of the Leupold long eye relief scopes on the gun and that thing would really shoot. We used to walk ridge tops and watch for deer below on the ledges. Many times we were able to get down prone and wrap up in the sling and shoot deer at long range. That gun shot so well we used to take turns with it - finally wore it out, the ejectors wouldn't even pull out the empties any more. Finally traded it for a Rem. Wingmaster.
my berreta a390 likes the cheap federal 1oz 2 3/4" slugs, groups about the size of an apple at 100yds, good enough for deer. so far ive shot 2 deer at 100yds with it and many more at closer ranges. friends ithica 37 likes the remington sluggers, and anothers mossberg semiauto stricly likes the brenneke which my berreta dispises. go figure. i would like to get one of those T/C Omegas though, shot one that would group about 1" at 100. ;D luke
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