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Post by Itrapny on Jul 27, 2007 11:48:50 GMT -5
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Post by Issiah on Aug 2, 2007 16:43:42 GMT -5
Is the stick for a visual atrractor or just to cover the hole?
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Post by Itrapny on Aug 2, 2007 17:30:29 GMT -5
A little of both. You can use a rock, piece of wood, etc., works really well if it's a contrasting color too.
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Post by Derek on Aug 2, 2007 18:17:51 GMT -5
ok so thats how you make a dirt hole set thanks for posting
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Post by Issiah on Oct 9, 2007 19:22:23 GMT -5
If there is no backing to a flat set what gets the animal to step on the trap. Is it just cause it will "Work" around it checking out the smell / object??
Same with the Post set; seems like the trap would have to be in the perfect position for the animal to step in, if all it's gonna do is walk up and pee on it.
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Post by Itrapny on Oct 9, 2007 19:47:13 GMT -5
I always have some sort of a "backing" when I use a flat set. I always try and use a small hole under the backing to further direct the animals attention to that exact spot. The flat set is so called not because you don't have a backing, but the flat appearance for the approach. Most dirt hole sets are set at least a little below the ground and are very noticeable, especially to hunters. A properly made flat set is nearly invisible to a passerby. When I use a urine post set, I very rarely use an actual post, it's usually a rock or tuft of grass and most of the catches are by a front foot, not a rear. I believe, and have read, that a K-9 first approaches a urine set from the front (straight on) uses it nose to find out who or what deposited and then turns and lifts it own leg. I've also noticed by looking at dogs, even males don't always lift their leg to pee??
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Post by Issiah on Oct 9, 2007 21:03:42 GMT -5
What is the backing in the photo above? Would a good backing be like weeds or rough terrain with the trap on the clearing side of "Object"
(Sorry if I'm confusing, just trying to understand what keeps animal from working from other directions than "Trap side)
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Post by buckhunter649 on Oct 9, 2007 21:48:37 GMT -5
Issaha,
The flat set is basically an old post set. The idea was that the dog (fox in the old days, now yotes) would come to investigate and pee where they thought another dog had been. I usually place the trap on the low side, but not always. Depends on the lay of the land. There is no rule.
Not every animal will fall for the same type set, or lure, or bait. Best thing to do is make some sets and see what works for you. Experiment. If you get something working....go with it. What works on my fox 100 miles from you may not work on yours, and visa/versa.
If you think they get wise to your sets....leave. Come back 2 weeks later and make some new sets. New type, bait, urine, etc. If they're there, they will make a mistake and set your trap off. Just make sure it's a good trap and staked well.
Trapping is fun, enjoyable, exciting, educational, and if successful, can be lucritive. It is also work. That is what it comes down to. You get out of it what you put into it.
Most of all. HAVE FUN.
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Post by mikespring on Oct 10, 2007 9:19:05 GMT -5
Good post!!!
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Post by Issiah on Oct 10, 2007 19:18:26 GMT -5
It's also Challenging, Rewarding, & fulfilling...& good for the quality of life for the populations of the animals in which we trap... Its truly A Win Win situation... ISSIAH
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Post by buckhunter649 on Oct 10, 2007 20:30:03 GMT -5
Isaha,
Hmmm...So is $@% !!! (Staying in bed late on cold Sunday mornings with the wife or significant other to be P.C.) But telling the guys you caught $300 in fur this weekend goes alot further than telling them....
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Post by brushwolf on Oct 29, 2007 11:06:05 GMT -5
Flat sets are death on coyotes when constucted properly. They are a very under utilized set for sure. The flat sets pick up those critters that are shy or have been around for a season or two. They also help keep trap theft down a bit in higher traffic areas. In my area large tufts of grass are very prevalent and thats what i use alot for backing. I make my sets very much like Wayne shows. I poke a hole at the base of the grass tuft and lure it. The lure always goes under the backing never on it. This makes em work the set more and shuffle around get caught. My .02
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Post by scentpost on Nov 6, 2007 19:55:39 GMT -5
Great post!!! Great pics!!
Andy
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Post by bobcat on Dec 24, 2008 16:00:42 GMT -5
great post. i caught fox, yotes, and cats in flat sets this year. (first year using them) i would recomend on thing. use a bigger backer. i made a set using a backer almost identical to yours and the yote cuffed the backer. i had seveal other visits and could not figure why i wasn't catching. well thats when i found that the backer had been moved. i like to use a long stick/log and put the set at the end. also rocks are not a good chioce as they don't hold scent very well.
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