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Post by milkie62 on Jul 27, 2020 11:24:54 GMT -5
Oh give me a break, the site was impotent for at least a year. Just move forward, the site is looking better. We had one member that was working on it but was constantly sent overseas. Another was helping him out and had to teach himself about websites. So in the end arrangements were made with a webmaster.
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Post by walleyed on Jul 28, 2020 17:55:11 GMT -5
Oh give me a break, the site was impotent for at least a year. Just move forward, the site is looking better. We had one member that was working on it but was constantly sent overseas. Another was helping him out and had to teach himself about websites. So in the end arrangements were made with a webmaster. So NYSTA finally got the ball rolling by putting a small news article on their website telling us (over a month late)that NYS DEC Bureau of Wildlife was changing the dates for Muskrat season and to send comments. Too Bad The B.O.D. didn't bother to add a little blurb on whether they supported DEC's efforts to steal a week of Muskrat trapping from Northern Zone Trappers. We still don't know If NYSTA B.O.D. was complicit in the plot to steal a week's worth of Rat trapping from their Payed-In-Full NYSTA Membership without their consent or knowledge or whether NYSTA was caught flat-footed and clueless while DEC frittered away trapping opportunity from NYS Licensed trappers without any reasonable warning. I for one, am tired of giving up trapping opportunity while NYSTA stands around taking our membership funds and keeping us in the dark, and un-represented with the DEC. w
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Post by milkie62 on Jul 31, 2020 16:02:21 GMT -5
Walleyed, I have never met you so I cannot comment about you. It is not all about muskrat season. How do you think for the short time I have been involved listening about fisher studies,needing jaws, reporting, etc ? I forgot to send in my fisher report even though I did not set a trap for them. So I forgot to send in my report card. Now I may not beable to get one. I have a fair amount of fisher in my area. I am sure in the closed otter season area there are plenty of otter. It seems DEC should Know with all their knowledge and trappers who want the most for their fur would not set a trap before fur is at least priming up. Full prime maybe not because I know some areas may freeze up or get snowed it B4 fully prime occurs. Dec is going to justify their studies because they want their raises and job security. I am sure NYSTA could be 110% right and DEC would still make their own decisions.How come we had a section on this forum for yearly takes and no where near 10% of NY trappers would submit their takes. And how much time SHOULD the committee ppl & BOD members donate monthly when some will only criticize whatever they do ?
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Post by walleyed on Jul 31, 2020 20:08:45 GMT -5
Walleyed, I have never met you so I cannot comment about you. It is not all about muskrat season. How do you think for the short time I have been involved listening about fisher studies,needing jaws, reporting, etc ? I forgot to send in my fisher report even though I did not set a trap for them. So I forgot to send in my report card. Now I may not beable to get one. I have a fair amount of fisher in my area. I am sure in the closed otter season area there are plenty of otter. It seems DEC should Know with all their knowledge and trappers who want the most for their fur would not set a trap before fur is at least priming up. Full prime maybe not because I know some areas may freeze up or get snowed it B4 fully prime occurs. Dec is going to justify their studies because they want their raises and job security. I am sure NYSTA could be 110% right and DEC would still make their own decisions.How come we had a section on this forum for yearly takes and no where near 10% of NY trappers would submit their takes. And how much time SHOULD the committee ppl & BOD members donate monthly when some will only criticize whatever they do ? It's all about muskrat season for me. I've participated and donated carcasses, and wrote letters, and lobbied, and filled out trapper's surveys, and assisted the Bureau of wildlife in varying capacities for years. I've volunteered my time with NYSTA, and I've been a member for years. I've earned the right to complain when things go off the rails for my favorite trapping season. As far as I'm concerned, NYSTA dropped the ball on this issue. Either by supporting this rule change or by being clueless that it was taking place. No way they can justify supporting the loss of a weeks worth of prime muskrat trapping season in order to align the seasons. Milkie62, Did you send your comments to: wildliferegs@dec.ny.govto object to the loss of one week of northern zone muskrat trapping, or are you a member of the B.O.D. cabal who apparently support this betrayal of trust by NYSTA towards it's membership. Where was our well-payed, high powered lobbyist to head this off at the pass with DEC, Bureau of wildlife ? Sorry Milkie62, but this is a major league Goat Rope !!! w
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Post by austin on Aug 1, 2020 10:27:59 GMT -5
I too sent my email stating opposition for the season date change, Bobby. You may not have noticed that elsewhere, you've been very busy viral posting everywhere lately.
Hopefully it all turns out as you prefer. Regardless, I do look forward to stringing steel together in partnership whenever the 2020 opener is. Let's do this. The people want to see this team effort, you & me against the muskrats. We need to make this happen, for their sake.
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Post by milkie62 on Aug 1, 2020 20:58:46 GMT -5
Walleyed, I have never met you so I cannot comment about you. It is not all about muskrat season. How do you think for the short time I have been involved listening about fisher studies,needing jaws, reporting, etc ? I forgot to send in my fisher report even though I did not set a trap for them. So I forgot to send in my report card. Now I may not beable to get one. I have a fair amount of fisher in my area. I am sure in the closed otter season area there are plenty of otter. It seems DEC should Know with all their knowledge and trappers who want the most for their fur would not set a trap before fur is at least priming up. Full prime maybe not because I know some areas may freeze up or get snowed it B4 fully prime occurs. Dec is going to justify their studies because they want their raises and job security. I am sure NYSTA could be 110% right and DEC would still make their own decisions.How come we had a section on this forum for yearly takes and no where near 10% of NY trappers would submit their takes. And how much time SHOULD the committee ppl & BOD members donate monthly when some will only criticize whatever they do ? It's all about muskrat season for me. I've participated and donated carcasses, and wrote letters, and lobbied, and filled out trapper's surveys, and assisted the Bureau of wildlife in varying capacities for years. I've volunteered my time with NYSTA, and I've been a member for years. I've earned the right to complain when things go off the rails for my favorite trapping season. As far as I'm concerned, NYSTA dropped the ball on this issue. Either by supporting this rule change or by being clueless that it was taking place. No way they can justify supporting the loss of a weeks worth of prime muskrat trapping season in order to align the seasons. Milkie62, Did you send your comments to: wildliferegs@dec.ny.govto object to the loss of one week of northern zone muskrat trapping, or are you a member of the B.O.D. cabal who apparently support this betrayal of trust by NYSTA towards it's membership. Where was Our payed, high powered lobbyist to head this off at the pass with DEC, Bureau of wildlife ? Sorry Milkie62, but this is a major league Goat rope !!! w I have had no time for anything lately. My mother has been in the hospital and she just passed away. Job & family in an all volunteer organization come first. GET MY POINT WALLEYED ?
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Post by austin on Aug 1, 2020 21:59:46 GMT -5
my sincere condolences with your family situation, Ed. Been there and did that for 18 months thru Feb 28th this year.
most of these codgers here don't grasp the facts of reality when we tell them to appreciate what they have today. They are still stuck back in 2010 when fur prices boomed, trapper associations were strong and everyone was ten years younger.
NYSTA, NTA and all other groups are without a dime of revenue from 2020 conventions. If experts are correct with predictions this Chinese plague saga will last thru 2021, any & every organization that's shut out of two conventions will be bankrupt, insolvent and dead. Cross ya fingers and enjoy the fur season ahead for what it is. Tomorrows are promised to no one.
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Post by markg on Aug 2, 2020 7:29:11 GMT -5
Very sorry to hear about tour Mom Our prayers are with you and your family
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Post by trapperjack on Aug 2, 2020 7:35:52 GMT -5
Very sorry for your loss. Prayers today.
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Post by walleyed on Aug 2, 2020 18:08:35 GMT -5
I have had no time for anything lately. My mother has been in the hospital and she just passed away. Job & family in an all volunteer organization come first. GET MY POINT WALLEYED ? I get your point milkman. But you don't have to yell. Don't forget, YOU dragged me into YOUR post on this thread and directed it at me so naturally I responded. Do whatever you want to do, or don't. I don't care. I won't lose any sleep either way. Carry on. w
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Post by trappermac on Aug 2, 2020 20:46:02 GMT -5
Nobody is blaming you Milkie. Sorry for the loss of your Mom, lost mine 3 weeks ago, 94 and alztheimers got her. Tough stuff to deal with, I know. I give you credit, you've come on here and faced a few of us. Nobody else has the cajones, and they leave you out here alone. I know they read this forum. You're the treasurer, this shouldn't be your fight. It would be nice to see something from another officer on here, maybe having your back, besides the membership chairman. Bob S. gets credit also. We don't call this stuff out to piss anyone off, but rather to spark a response, to get a feeling that nysta has our trappers back, as nothing is spoken anywhere else, not even in TP. So good for you Milkie, at least you try, more than I can say for other officers. May your mom rip.
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Post by arran on Aug 3, 2020 8:12:50 GMT -5
Nobody is blaming you Milkie. Sorry for the loss of your Mom, lost mine 3 weeks ago, 94 and alztheimers got her. Tough stuff to deal with, I know. I give you credit, you've come on here and faced a few of us. Nobody else has the cajones, and they leave you out here alone. I know they read this forum. You're the treasurer, this shouldn't be your fight. It would be nice to see something from another officer on here, maybe having your back, besides the membership chairman. Bob S. gets credit also. We don't call this stuff out to piss anyone off, but rather to spark a response, to get a feeling that nysta has our trappers back, as nothing is spoken anywhere else, not even in TP. So good for you Milkie, at least you try, more than I can say for other officers. May your mom rip. I also get that we all have a life and that in a club like NYSTA duties get pushed back when those get in the way. That's life and none of us is immune to that, and that is the problem with organizations, that only a few do all the work. Having said that though, I believe that if you belong to an organization and are an officer in that organization you have a obligation to perform those duties and have to make time to do that and keep your members informed. To say ,like I was told recently when I had (still have ) a problem that quote" I take care of NYSTA stuff last when I have the time, and that who are you to dare ask me anything . You are just a member who doesn't do anything!) is not going to bode well for the organization going forward. I have belonged to and have held positions on other organizations from president to BOD positions and am fully aware of the problems working around the membership duties and people issues. As for NYSTA , if you do not start being a bit more forthcoming with information as to the workings of the group , you will die as you lose more members. Remember that those members who are currently paying dues still do more for trapping that the ones that aren't members of NYSTA.
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Post by walleyed on Aug 3, 2020 14:28:02 GMT -5
As for NYSTA , if you do not start being a bit more forthcoming with information as to the workings of the group , you will die as you lose more members. Remember that those members who are currently paying dues still do more for trapping that the ones that aren't members of NYSTA. TRUE DAT, arran !!!!!w
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Post by bill1960 on Aug 3, 2020 20:29:07 GMT -5
sorry guys I've been busy the last couple of weeks calling all the vendors to tell them about the convention being canceled and then working with the fairgrounds people to get this flea market going to help everyone have a place to get what they need for this years trapping season. I just hope you all can make it.If you have any questions about it just give me a call or send me a message. I would be glad to give you any info you would like to know. Bill
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Post by walleyed on Aug 3, 2020 20:31:35 GMT -5
Thank you for all your hard work, Bill.
I will be there If they let me take the time off.
walleyed
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Post by milkie62 on Aug 4, 2020 2:07:20 GMT -5
Thank you for all your hard work, Bill. I will be there If they let me take the time off. walleyed Did not realize that work comes first. LOL I am also a 42 yr vol FD member. My small dept has about 30 active volunteer members. At times we due to people's work schedules & family responsibilities may have only a driver for a truck in hopes mutual aid shows up. I have been on my way home from xmas eve mass and responded to a structure fire . All I am saying is that we do talk about things that need to be done for the membership. Maybe since the the website is getting back in place we should post the current BOD meeting so that the membership can see what went on and if they see that there is help needed in an area, somebody may say "Hey,I can do that" and offer their help. And I doubt that Bill just magically does not have to go to work during convention time . I am sure he must have to waste some vacation time for all of us to enjoy a yearly convention. I think for the next BOD meeting we should nominate Walleye to be on teleconference to take notes and write up the minutes until our regular secretary gets back from overseas.
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Post by milkie62 on Aug 4, 2020 2:12:50 GMT -5
I appreciate the kind words on the loss of my mom.
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Post by austin on Aug 4, 2020 5:39:56 GMT -5
no words of condolences from walleyed or joerat789? One would think those hyper-active posters in here would show some mature, adult, common decency and respect towards a fellow NYS trapper.
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Post by whartonrattrapper on Aug 4, 2020 6:25:16 GMT -5
I think for the next BOD meeting we should nominate Walleye to be on teleconference to take notes and write up the minutes until our regular secretary gets back from overseas. How about have your regular secretary post something HERE! He has plenty of time to post on other sites.
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Post by walleyed on Aug 4, 2020 7:29:41 GMT -5
no words of condolences from walleyed or joerat789? One would think those hyper-active posters in here would show some mature, adult, common decency and respect towards a fellow NYS trapper. How bout this condolence, baldy. Pound salt up your backside !!! w
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Post by paintedpaw on Aug 4, 2020 9:44:45 GMT -5
Please accept my condolences on the loss of your Mom. I lost my sister to lung cancer in June.
I have been very critical lately of NYSTA. In years past I held every office in NYSTA except Treasurer. Despite my criticism I must say that the officers and directors are all volunteers. We need NYSTA to protect trapping in New York, wheter it's Walleyed's muskrats or my fisher.It is too easy to just criticize.
I have the highest respect for the convention chairman; the job he's done and the job he's doing.
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Post by walleyed on Aug 4, 2020 9:49:37 GMT -5
I think for the next BOD meeting we should nominate Walleye to be on teleconference to take notes and write up the minutes until our regular secretary gets back from overseas. walleyed has suspended any and all volunteer assistance until such time that "Gambling Gamba" the former NYSTA treasurer-in-thief who absconded with all our funds and left our association insolvent, is brought to justice. Also, Until such time that our NYSTA B.O.D. sees fit to open lines of communication with rank-in-file membership on important topics such as the loss of a week of northern zone muskrat season, or other pertinent topics, walleyed will be on the periphery observing & watching whether our trapping association B.O.D. has our back, or whether they are operating unilaterally without the consent of the membership. All in my Opinion, of course. Stay tuned. walleyed
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Post by joemarshditchrat on Aug 4, 2020 9:58:50 GMT -5
Bob, I might be able to help you out this year, I have a nice 14' boat and I would be willing to row you around all your favorite spots this year...we can take some nice pics for Austin of the record Muskrat harvest.
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Post by walleyed on Aug 4, 2020 10:20:33 GMT -5
Bob, I might be able to help you out this year, I have a nice 14' boat and I would be willing to row you around all your favorite spots this year...we can take some nice pics for Austin of the record Muskrat harvest. As crazy as it seems, Joe. I would sooner team up with a brain damaged, anti-social, lunatic such as yourself before I'd throw in with a bottom feeding, plagiarizing, lying, carpet bagging, line-jumping loser like baldy !!! You'd have to be tested for Covid-19, and then quarantine for 14 days, and wear full battle gear PPE, including a Tyvek bio-hazard suit in order to be my muskrat servant. All in my opinion, of course. w
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Post by joemarshditchrat on Aug 4, 2020 10:23:57 GMT -5
I have already been tested and I was positive for the Covid, I am now fully recovered so I am good to go!
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