tmc
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Post by tmc on Apr 11, 2020 17:03:02 GMT -5
This morning there was a coyote in the home orchard, easily seen from the house. We watched it go to every single set I had made during December, but they were pretty much all out of commission by mid-January. I pulled them on February 15th. They hadn't been re-lured since maybe the end of December. That coyote worked those sets like crazy. We watched it for about 40 minutes until it wandered off.
Talk about lasting! BTW, all were Night Owl Lures lol.
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Post by tony1967 on Apr 12, 2020 6:32:06 GMT -5
Goes to show that we probably use too much when setting!
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tmc
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Post by tmc on Apr 12, 2020 7:56:22 GMT -5
Yes, I've always heeded the instruction to only use a small amount. I don't think I even use the size of a cotton swab at any set. I learned, back in the early 70s, how long a scent can last, when I had a post set I made on opening day (October 25th) for fox. I never re-lured it, and on the coldest, snowiest day that winter - mid-January - I had a male red fox, still to this day the best ever as far as color, quality, size; MAYBE he'd been by there and remembered, but maybe not. Either way there had to be enough smell to make him stop. Then, convention speakers only confirmed what my experience taught me - NOT TOO MUCH!!!
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Zagman
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Post by Zagman on Apr 12, 2020 9:42:29 GMT -5
During my demos, the lure makers cringe because, especially in my pipes, I say: "set it and forget it". I DON'T re-lure or re-bait after any rain in general...if it rains so much that I have to do it, I am probably pulling traps and building an Ark!
I've left pipes in the ground on purpose (froze in) or accident, and you find them in the spring or the next year and they are still being "worked"
All that said, I DO use enough on Day One to allow this.....no ONE DROP and go......
MZ
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Post by nightowl on Apr 12, 2020 10:24:31 GMT -5
After I did a demo one time one famous lure maker of his day pulled me to the side as I was walking out and said " you're a lure maker aren't you? ", yeah?"Then why in the world would you tell them to use less lure, that ain't the best business plan. " My answer and I still tell people this at my demos now was I'd rather they use it the right way and come back because they were successful than blame me for all the walk byes. I learned two lessons from that 1) You never know who's in the audience paying attention so BS will come back to bite you eventually and 2) The lure business is fickle. If you have a good product the customers and more importantly the animals will keep coming by and stopping.It really is that simple. The products "Lasting" keep the company "Lasting." Cool coyote sighting and story!!
Jim
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Post by pasqunell on Apr 13, 2020 1:20:00 GMT -5
i had a set in the ground for starting nov 14 with wax dirt it was one of the ones that was a driveby I caught a big male coyote on day 49 and that was with nightowl lures and so thay can and will find your sets
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tomsnare
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Post by tomsnare on Apr 13, 2020 12:10:59 GMT -5
Iam testing homemade stink for cats, I have a couple game cameras set up on flags that I paper clip a shotgun patch to the flag and saturate the patch, after two weeks I have pictures of bobcats,lion and a coyote ignoring them but the elk seem really curious about the smell. These are at locations I have been successful, the smells I haven't used before. The elk paying attention to the smell isn't unusual, they make it hard to keep traps working as bad or worse than deer.
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Post by piterparker on May 21, 2020 13:52:03 GMT -5
Was he alive?
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tomsnare
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Post by tomsnare on Jul 20, 2020 16:32:02 GMT -5
I have some results that raise more questions, I had no response to the lure in one spot from a female lion but her yearling was pretty interested. The other location on the same ranch a male spent several minutes rubbing and I think peeing hard to tell, another spot had an aggressive response, ears up and kicking. Seems the smell is sex specific ?! Grey fox, bobcats it makes 'em pee. Can't post pictures here?
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tomsnare
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Post by tomsnare on Jul 23, 2020 13:46:37 GMT -5
No one else play with smells?
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