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Mb 550 ?
Dec 27, 2013 12:22:21 GMT -5
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Post by countryboynwco on Dec 27, 2013 12:22:21 GMT -5
My wife works at a veterinary hospital a dog was brought in that had been caught in an mb 550 ! The Encon officer that came to look at the trap took it into possession saying although it was tagged properly and such it's measurements make it illegal in ny I don't see how I hear people on here talking about using them ? Is this officer incorrect as I was planning on getting some mb 550 ?
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Post by camohoyt340 on Dec 27, 2013 12:52:33 GMT -5
Not according to the laws I've read. If so, I'm breaking the law in about 12 different spots. Lol
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Dec 27, 2013 12:56:39 GMT -5
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Post by countryboynwco on Dec 27, 2013 12:56:39 GMT -5
I asked him and he said they were illegal he said a lot of trappers use them with laminated jaws but it does not make them legal because you have to measure don inside of outermost jaw I don't know the measurements but he seemed pretty certain ? I don't get it
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Post by trappermac on Dec 27, 2013 13:41:19 GMT -5
They are legal, they have a 4 3/4 inside and 5 1/2 outside jaw spread. In NY you measure the inside as shown in DEC "how to measure a leghold trap;
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Post by traps82 on Dec 27, 2013 13:49:58 GMT -5
Maybe we all need to make a copy of that section and carry it with us while trapping. I am going to. This is not the 1st time I have heard of this.
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Post by nightstalker1 on Dec 27, 2013 14:37:06 GMT -5
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Mb 550 ?
Dec 27, 2013 14:43:18 GMT -5
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Post by countryboynwco on Dec 27, 2013 14:43:18 GMT -5
I figured they were legal by all means ! The Encon officer probably did not even measure the trap at least I never saw him hopefully the trapper he was paying a visit to has a copy of the law ! I also pointed out to him that the owner if the dog was not compliant with ny leash law and had the dog been on a leash like law says it wouldn't be an issue
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Dec 27, 2013 15:48:03 GMT -5
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Post by jimd on Dec 27, 2013 15:48:03 GMT -5
Obviously the officer doesn't know the laws he is suppose to enforce
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Post by herm on Dec 27, 2013 15:51:57 GMT -5
There is no NYS leash law. Does the ECO know enough about traps to know it is an MB 550? Just wondering if it was some other trap that maybe is to big.
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Post by hardwoodcharlie on Dec 27, 2013 15:52:55 GMT -5
are you sure it was a 550 and not a 650 havent heard of 550's needing inside lams,they come stock with a cast 3/8 jaw?? but by him saying allot of people use them with inside lams makes me think more in the way 650's are modified to make them NY leagal....this is just me thinking out loud
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Post by saquelie on Dec 27, 2013 16:06:06 GMT -5
There is no NYS leash law. Does the ECO know enough about traps to know it is an MB 550? Just wondering if it was some other trap that maybe is to big. Not sure about your part of the state but we have a leash law here. Was wondering if it may of been a hunting dog.
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Post by herm on Dec 27, 2013 16:12:36 GMT -5
I did not say there were not any leash laws in NYS. What I did say was there is not a NYS Leash Law.
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Post by traps82 on Dec 27, 2013 16:13:15 GMT -5
They are legal, they have a 4 3/4 inside and 5 1/2 outside jaw spread. In NY you measure the inside as shown in DEC "how to measure a leghold trap; Even if he used the outside measurements, it is STILL less than 5 3/4" SMH That's like getting a ticket for 50 MPH in a 55 zone
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Post by ADC Newbie on Dec 27, 2013 16:45:01 GMT -5
Obviously the officer doesn't know the laws he is suppose to enforce Im a Trapper Training Instructor and Ive had a couple En Con guys admit they don't know most of the trapping laws and have to call others to find out. I have a feeling he either measured wrong (hope hes not a part time carpenter) or doesn't know the exact law Laminating the jaws are legal on foothold traps, you cant laminate conibear traps
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Post by camohoyt340 on Dec 27, 2013 16:51:11 GMT -5
U can laminate or add bars to body grippers but it does not change the measurement of the trap. They are measured off the stock trap frame.
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Post by camohoyt340 on Dec 27, 2013 16:57:47 GMT -5
And if that dog was caught in a 550, there can't be much damage done. They are great traps and the only traps ill purposely stick a bare and in.
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Post by doubledan on Dec 27, 2013 17:21:44 GMT -5
There is no NYS leash law. Does the ECO know enough about traps to know it is an MB 550? Just wondering if it was some other trap that maybe is to big. Not sure about your part of the state but we have a leash law here. Was wondering if it may of been a hunting dog. Also one in my area, I've received 2 tickets in the last 6 months cause my dog climbs his 7' kennel and runs around the neighbors yard.
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Post by austinp on Dec 27, 2013 17:31:11 GMT -5
Need to verify that it is a 550 and not 650, first. Pretty easy to make that error in passing a story along like this.
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Post by brushwolf64 on Dec 27, 2013 18:24:21 GMT -5
Ive seen in the recent past where they tried writing a ticket for an illegal size trap when it was very much within the measurement.
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Post by nightstalker1 on Dec 27, 2013 18:39:15 GMT -5
I would assume that he read the pan.
MB550 or MB650 is engraved on their respective pan
Hopefully it will all work out
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Post by traps82 on Dec 27, 2013 19:25:44 GMT -5
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Post by broadhorizons on Dec 27, 2013 19:41:52 GMT -5
The 550's also say it on the jaw itself.
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Post by catman4 on Dec 27, 2013 20:27:20 GMT -5
He was just collecting more traps for his own line ?.
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Mb 550 ?
Dec 27, 2013 20:55:42 GMT -5
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Post by countryboynwco on Dec 27, 2013 20:55:42 GMT -5
I don't know for sure of trap size ! I only interacted with officer for a few minutes and he was very uppity about me sticking my nose in it at all ! My wife said it defiantly was an mb but unsure of the # lol women ! Anyway I hope the party's involved figure it out I just wanted to know if 550's were legal
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Post by countryboynwco on Dec 27, 2013 21:01:55 GMT -5
I do know the trap was tagged and I just don't see someone tagging an illegal trap regardless !
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