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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2012 21:32:18 GMT -5
Walleye, I believe Paul is a (well I won't go there), because he allows certain people to discuss politics, which is against his own rules. Some people are allowed to post racist comments and be banned.
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Post by traps82 on May 29, 2012 21:46:03 GMT -5
Good point,.. Austin.. The point I was making... And I PO'd some people on FB (like I care) is this: Instead of telling some kid or newbie"to look it up".. How about not saying ANYTHING or sending a PM and tell them how to look stuff up.. Or.. Give an answer and then suggest to look for more info else where. Nope.. They can't do that..They have to feed their hype fed egos as if they are the end all of trapping. I can tell ya this much.. There is a man on here (more than one I am sure) that will answer any question you ask him. NOW, he may make you THINK on it and have you sort it out for yourself by asking you questions.. But you will learn and you NEVER be demeaned for asking. Actually, from what I see here.. This would be one of the very few places I would ask a question.. I said that too and bruised some more egos...
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2012 21:56:28 GMT -5
This is the best site around if you have a question.
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Post by clt on May 30, 2012 4:53:21 GMT -5
It doesn't matter, that place has gone downhill. Every post has become political. That's a pretty big brush,"every post has become political". Not every post is or becomes political.Politics,to a certain extent,are important to trappers and those who enjoy the outdoors,since politicians are the ones making the rules and regs that end up effecting us.It's pretty simple really,if you don't like to talk or discuss certain topics,don't.You did it yourself,you took a simple post here and injected politics.LOL
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Post by austinp on May 30, 2012 6:06:16 GMT -5
How about not saying ANYTHING or sending a PM and tell them how to look stuff up.. Or.. Give an answer and then suggest to look for more info else where. The only time I tell someone with a common question to check the archives, I include specific links to extensive threads I know are there. Truth is, some topics get covered in-depth so much in past threads that everyone is exhausted on the topic for new conversation. In other words, the older threads cannot be beat or improved. Trapperman is a huge site relative to this board or any others. There really isn't a comparison. None of us can imagine the scope of that board's size and activity behind the scenes to be managed. I would do some things differently if I were Paul, but then again so would most everyone else. When you have that many people congregated in one place, it loses the small-town feel of a board like this one here. Part of the atmosphere in tman is from a city-sized gathering of people, many of whom are marignally interested in trapping at best. My major disappointment in tman is this: many times I try to discuss specific, detailed topics on trapping that ruffle some of the big egos in this game. God forbid anyone mention numbers, or it turns into a "who-is-bigger" contest in their minds. I don't compete with anyone in the trapping world except for myself. My own goals only matter to me. I get the impression zagman and many others are the same... we get out of bed with no need for alarm clocks in season just to revel in the pure joy of our sport. I myself like to talk about traps and trapping with others. In detail. Sharing actual, useful info as if we're all not entered in the Bassmasters Classic against each other. But there are guys out there who are driven like rented mules to boast the biggest numbers for bragging rights and back-slaps from admiring masses. Those are the guys who give me grief every time I try to initiate or engage specific, detailed information that may sound like I almost know what I'm talking about. One thing is absolutely iron-clad in my mind: if the veteran muskrat trappers from New York were out in South Dakota or North Dakota all season, they would put up unheard numbers of catches. I covered 1198 miles of the eastern half ND last weekend and it's absolutely mind-boggling. Any of you guys would be on info overload by day's end, just like I was. All of the stories you may have read about how many rats are out there are true. Picture Montezuma and Iroquis here, spread all over the eastern half of North and South Dakota. That pretty much describes what the locals call "marginal" water. A two-acre shallow slough right off the highway might have 40 - 50 rat houses and be riddled with bank dens. Thousands and thousands of times repeated. Everyone out there ignores everywhere else. Yet there are guys who tell me setting runs with bodygrips or colony traps cannot be done. They tell me the "rivers" (think big creek that is choked with broad-leaf cattails and bluestem grasses for miles) don't hold enough rats. They tell me the big impoundments whose shores are coated with feedbeds and piled toilets don't hold enough rats. To be honest, I've been told so much from guys who in all honesty know so little, I've lost a lot of interest in that board.
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Post by clt on May 30, 2012 6:20:24 GMT -5
I agree with most of what you stated Austin.There is a lot of bad info that gets spread as fact.
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Post by ecgreen on May 30, 2012 8:26:14 GMT -5
Only thing I know is that I have never been treated with any disrespect here, no matter how repetitive, inane or odd my questions may be. I am going into my 6th year of trapping this year and thanks to this site I do fairly well for myself. I trap in a humane, productive and respectful manner. Most of what I know I learned on here.
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Post by austinp on May 30, 2012 9:46:19 GMT -5
Only thing I know is that I have never been treated with any disrespect here, no matter how repetitive, inane or odd my questions may be. I am going into my 6th year of trapping this year and thanks to this site I do fairly well for myself. I trap in a humane, productive and respectful manner. Most of what I know I learned on here. smaller boards = small-town type of hospitality bigger boards = big city type mentality. that is generally true across any topic or subject on the internet, not by any means exclusive to trapping
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Post by traps82 on May 30, 2012 10:07:36 GMT -5
"The only time I tell someone with a common question to check the archives, I include specific links to extensive threads I know are there. Truth is, some topics get covered in-depth so much in past threads that everyone is exhausted on the topic for new conversation. In other words, the older threads cannot be beat or improved." THAT IS WHAT I MEAN!! That is TEACHING!!! That is a perfect way to teach how to look it up! BRAVO, KUDOS and whatever We are trappers, not computer techs for the most part. Teaching and sharing is a big reason people go to any forum about any specific interest. I will still go there.. For traps.. Unless the trapping god there deems me not acceptable to his board LMAO! Hmmmm How would I live???
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Post by walleyed on May 30, 2012 10:59:07 GMT -5
Walleye, I believe Paul is a (well I won't go there), because he allows certain people to discuss politics, which is against his own rules. Some people are allowed to post racist comments and be banned. Marshrat, You are absolutely right when you say RULES are not equally enforced across the board, Pauly has his pets who are allowed to run rampant across the forum, and others, are instantly stomped. I think when he sees a post, he might deem inappropriate, he looks back and checks the Poster's Prior "body of work". In other words, The prior posts to see if the poster has a history of being an idiot, a racist, a flamer, an aggitator, ETC. If the poster has a history of positive contributions to the sport, ethics, and heritage of trapping, and helping others with valuable, useful information, then that Poster MAY get more leeway with a questionable post. If one is a KNOWN Scorch, or aggitator, then Pauly's hammer SEEMS to come down harder and Quicker. All in all, if you can look beyond all the drama, and ill-manneredness, the site is a wealth of information, that must be sifted carefully to separate the wheat from the chaff. walleyed
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Post by clt on May 30, 2012 12:05:03 GMT -5
I agree that you have to sift through the info and separate the "wheat form the chaff" as you say.It gets old seeing and answering the same questions.I rarely tell someone to check the archives,if I do I do what Austin said he does,post links to other posts of value.To the one asking the question it might seem rude to get told to look in the archives,but how many really take the time to check and read before asking a question?And how many times do you respond to the same question.I have seen the same question get asked by two different people and they are posted on the same page.LOL People want instant gratification and are often unwilling to do a little of the work on there own to find an answer.I usually try and offer advice or answer questions that I feel I can add something beneficial to but I don't post as often as I used to because of the bs.What I appreciate about T-Man though is that their is enough traffic there that posts will move right along,so when the trapping conversations are slow there is always some entertainment with other threads.
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Post by clt on May 30, 2012 13:56:26 GMT -5
I just checked that link to Hal Sullivan's site someone posted earlier in this thread and Paul posted it could be next week before things are back up and running normal.He did say that nothing was lost info wise from the site though,which is good.It is a shame really that we all have to deal with the fools that do this type of thing.
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