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Post by nyrat on Mar 13, 2012 19:25:05 GMT -5
lost 5 280s today in east syracuse must be a local guy on posted land near a road. have to buy some more beaver traps this summer . i am done for the yaer
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2012 19:33:31 GMT -5
Where did you lose them?
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Post by sixgun44 on Mar 13, 2012 22:40:43 GMT -5
Sorry to hear that. Hope you catch the dirt bag.
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Post by Trapper Jack on Mar 13, 2012 22:43:03 GMT -5
just not right!!!! sorry...
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Post by frankd on Mar 13, 2012 23:29:38 GMT -5
"Low Lifes" Would of been great if your post read .Dirt bag takes four 280 and caught in number five.would be a site for sore eyes! Sorry to hear about it. It is a big problem all over the state.
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Post by Lonny Mattison on Mar 14, 2012 4:59:27 GMT -5
Too bad Mark
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Post by austinp on Mar 14, 2012 6:51:07 GMT -5
My sincere condolences on that experience. For the life of me I cannot understand that mentality of trap thieves... particularly when it comes to those who have trapping skills. By far the biggest blight in our sport, and have always been so.
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Post by wcs on Mar 14, 2012 7:56:14 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about your bad experience
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Post by traps82 on Mar 14, 2012 9:52:25 GMT -5
That is a low life. POS..... PO's me big time.. Next fall is going to be REALLY bad after the jump in prices.. I had some scum dig a 15-17 inch cable stake out to steal a Bridger #2.. Guess the Monty 20 feet away was going to be too much work. We all might want to X stake with 4 feet of USA made #5 chain this fall...
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Post by RLMcoyote7 on Mar 14, 2012 12:54:48 GMT -5
Mark not a good way to end the season,hope somebody will catch them. Weather to nice lot of people out and about,with the price of scrap its a wonder any of us have any traps.
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Post by fingerlakesfur on Mar 14, 2012 13:13:11 GMT -5
Mark...sorry to hear about that. I know there are some low life characters working that area...I always have problems with my mink traps around there.
I had 6 traps stolen at one bridge location...funny, you go a few miles either direction & the theft stops. I try to steer clear of the metro locations these days
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Post by 2labs on Mar 14, 2012 20:32:13 GMT -5
I have been very fortunate in my years of trapping, have had fox taken but have not lost any traps!! I have always been paranoid about where I set and never tell anyone that I am trapping in most places(except the landowner). I have been very lucky and hate hearing about people stealing traps and fur, there are many places I would love to trap but feel it to risky with all the traffic nowadays, sorry for your losses !!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2012 20:43:57 GMT -5
Here's the thing..Mark and I are the only ones that have permission to trap there. I put posted signs up the last few years yet people act like they are not there and play dumb when I tell them the land is posted. This is the place where someone was checking my traps, pulling the rats and mink out of them, then resetting them. I am done being a nice guy...next year will be a different story.
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Post by sixgun44 on Mar 14, 2012 21:57:07 GMT -5
All you need is one of those really small trail cams, buy some signs saying trail cameras in use and set em up. It seems to work for me, it helped alot with my hunting property... which was plaqed with idiots.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2012 5:30:22 GMT -5
Here's the thing..Mark and I are the only ones that have permission to trap there. I put posted signs up the last few years yet people act like they are not there and play dumb when I tell them the land is posted. This is the place where someone was checking my traps, pulling the rats and mink out of them, then resetting them. I am done being a nice guy...next year will be a different story. If you 2 are the only ones with permission, get a recreational lease agreement signed with the owner. Allows you to post the property in your name and sign complaints with trespassers. Have a couple trespassers arrested, the word will travel fast...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2012 18:42:34 GMT -5
The police said they can arrest anyone that tresspasses there, but they usually just ask them what they are doing and as long as they are not dumping, let them be on their way. I was told there was a trapper in a white pickup snooping around down there...so that is all the info I need. Like I said, next year will be a different story.
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Post by Zagman on Mar 16, 2012 5:30:30 GMT -5
I have a white pickup.....
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Post by austinp on Mar 16, 2012 6:01:07 GMT -5
I have a white pickup..... Well there ya have it, then. Find some guy with too much time on his hands that can't trap any fur, and he gets sticky-fingeritis <lol> In all seriousness, I noticed something on my trips up north that differs from down here: roadside water locations are heavily, heavily posted. I commonly saw where a wet culvert had two posted signs ten feet apart... one on either side of the pipe or bridge. Our lands are posted more than not down here in my area of the state, but not nearly like I see up north. Don't know what to make of that observation other than road trappers trying to culvert hop are not openly welcomed. I saw a lot of smoking hot muskrat - beaver - otter spots guarded by signs. As for the theft where someone runs the traps and takes fur... in my experience it will take at least one arrest to stop that behavior. That perrson is a dedicated fur theif and will not discourage easily. I sure hope you get the chance to press charges with solid evidence to back your case up.
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Post by Lonny Mattison on Mar 16, 2012 6:08:27 GMT -5
There are a few known thiefs around here. Trapping roadside is easy, but not many places to to get permission to do so.
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Post by herm on Mar 16, 2012 6:42:13 GMT -5
Through my years of hunting and trapping I have cought people stealing my traps red handed.I have called the police when I knew who stole my traps and wouldnt give them back several times and then got them back after calling the state police.I have had my traps sprung and reported to the DEC for trapping beaver by another trapper who claimed they were his beaver the only time I ever had written permission by land owners who got together and wanted the beaver removed.I have been shot at while hunting with the person who owned the land we were on by people who didnt want us hunting there. I have had guns pulled on me more than once while coon hunting,the last time by the drunken son of the landowner we talked to that morning asking if we could hunt that night.I have been held at gun point and held there againts my will until police arrived after a land owner yelled at me to come over on to his land to talk when I was hunting on his neighbors land and he was going to have me arrested,but of course he couldnt,but I sure could of pressed several charges on him.Through all this and more I have never presses charges on anyone.But the next time might be different.We need to start bringing all this crap to a stop.
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Post by albertburns on Mar 16, 2012 8:34:40 GMT -5
Herm, you are a much better and more patient man than I am. While I try to think of myself as being level headed and pretty rational,pulling a weapon on me, or detaining me at gunpoint while I am in the right is just not going to happen,someone is makeing a trip to Upstate Medical Center.
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Post by austinp on Mar 16, 2012 9:00:08 GMT -5
Herm, you are a much better and more patient man than I am. While I try to think of myself as being level headed and pretty rational,pulling a weapon on me, or detaining me at gunpoint while I am in the right is just not going to happen,someone is makeing a trip to Upstate Medical Center. For better or worse, and it might very well be much worse... that's my weakness too. Somebody is going to get a real beat-down over that... them or me but it's going to be somebody in the end. I'm passive as they come and non-confrontational if possible, but when the line is crossed too far, it's going to get physical. Saddest part is any of us ever have to experience such things while afield. We hunt - fish - trap to escape stress and the pressures of life... not to get wrapped up in even more drama while trying to simply have fun.
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Post by herm on Mar 16, 2012 10:39:16 GMT -5
Several area sportsmen were upset at me when I did not press charges againts the man,Walt Tellier,who held me captive at the point of a shotgun.When the police arrived, two Wayne County Sheriff cars and one State Police car, they walked toward us and I told them this man is crazy.They replyed, yes we know it.The funny thing is they were going to arrest me, mainly becouse the Telliers made the complaint, until I named off about a dozen charges I was going to make againts him.Then the situation suddenly changed,police taking my side and telling me this guy messed up big time.I did however have the satisfaction of reading in the paper sometime later that he was going off to prison for statutory rape, having had sex with an under age girl.Sometimes things have a way of working out.
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Post by brokestove on Mar 16, 2012 15:07:02 GMT -5
Sorry to hear that i will keep my ears and eyes open if i hear our see anyone i let you know mark.had 80 traps taken in east syracuse in 79 learned my lesson on too close to the road and highway sets.
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Post by slyfox74 on Mar 17, 2012 7:11:25 GMT -5
Were these traps permanently marked in any way? They'll be likely to show up on Craig's List this summer.
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