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Post by ambowpk on Mar 5, 2012 9:03:44 GMT -5
Just getting into trapping. Looking into purchasing Super Stakes for K-9 trapping. Which are the preferred Super Stakes, with cable, with chain, 12" or 18" cable, finned or unfinned? My father-in-law did weld me up a stake puller. I may be trapping in a few public places. Will be using MB-550 RC's and KB 5.5's. Thank you. www.rugermountaincedarloghomes.com/
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Post by jimd on Mar 5, 2012 9:25:29 GMT -5
regular super stakes with either cable or chain work great in any soil types. The average cable/chain length is 15''. Shorter for rocky or firmer soils, longer for loamy, sandy soils. If you're trapping in sandy, or other loose soils, the finned tips are a better choice
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Post by firman on Mar 5, 2012 11:37:30 GMT -5
I bought some with chain to try because cable doesn't lay too flat. Sometimes I don't have to drive the stake in full depth. It's easy to coil up excess chain. The only problem I had was when I went to pull them. I actually broke the chain on a few. Maybe replacing with american made chain instead of the cheap chinese crap would help? also going to number 3 chain in stead of number 2? Anyone else had this problem? I really like the stakes. Lot less weight to haul around versus double staking. I was using premade stakes w/chain from Tim Caven at Minn. trapline products.
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Post by jimd on Mar 5, 2012 12:29:23 GMT -5
the cheap chain does break easier. I've had customers with the problem of chains breaking once in a while. Its not a common problem but might be worth paying a little more for better chain
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Post by gentlemantrapper on Mar 5, 2012 15:00:49 GMT -5
I prefer chain over cable because if a big coyote pulls up an inch or two of chain, the chain will lay flat and the set is easy to remake. If you are using cable it sticks up and makes remakes tough.
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traps82
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Post by traps82 on Mar 5, 2012 16:07:44 GMT -5
If the cable pulls up a bit.. I use my hammer to pound it into the dirt. It works.
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Post by jimd on Mar 5, 2012 16:25:04 GMT -5
thats why I dont recommend using 1/8" cable, its too stiff. The weight of the trap doesnt bend the 1/8" cable over easily like it does a 3/32 cable.
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Post by cooncreek on Mar 5, 2012 16:58:47 GMT -5
I use MB chain stakes they are 16" long
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Post by mole on Mar 5, 2012 17:38:17 GMT -5
I have gone to about 6 in. cable and then chain. My driver dictates how deep.
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Post by Rick on Mar 5, 2012 17:46:45 GMT -5
I love the chain stakes and am slowly phasing out the cable. Pull 'em out with a big crowbar and block of wood. Sometimes I'm only getting a link at a time until I get it coming but I haven't had one I couldn't pull.
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Post by ambowpk on Mar 6, 2012 10:05:31 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I ordered up a dz. super chain stakes this morning. One last question, does it matter if the shock spring is in the middle of the set up or up near the top where I will connect the super stake chain. Note: I have added 12" of USA #3 chain to my set up. It goes trap, chain attached to trap, MB Crunch Swivel, 12" chain, MB Crunch swivel, shock spring at the end. Therefore, at this time I have all shocks up at the top to connect to the super stake chain. Thanks.
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Post by firman on Mar 6, 2012 12:37:46 GMT -5
I would add another swivel at the end so that you have a swivel on each side of your shock spring.
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Post by Zagman on Mar 6, 2012 20:16:58 GMT -5
With longer chains ( not sure I quite understand your setup) I'd have the shockspring dead center. If too close to the trap bed, if you drive the stake a little to far, your shockspring become angled in the bed and sorta in the way of your bedding.
If you put it near the trap, its a real tooth buster.
Not the end of the world, but by putting it in the middle, you avoid both of these nuisances.
MZ
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