traps82
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Post by traps82 on Mar 12, 2011 19:04:37 GMT -5
And poor Tom having to try and carry on a conversation here.. Tom.. If I had more rats and if everything wasnt FLOODED.. I would get some!! Aint been hiding,,,, Been WORKING!! OUCH....
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Post by bballou on Mar 13, 2011 6:47:47 GMT -5
Jerry thats what I have herd----You were working breaking in a new lounge chair.
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traps82
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Post by traps82 on Mar 15, 2011 10:14:03 GMT -5
Nothing new here Bill... I am divorced!!! LMAO!! ;D ;D ;D I got an "old" one I am breaking in!!
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Post by bballou on Mar 15, 2011 19:43:05 GMT -5
Jerry ----Please dont explain that ----HERE---this is a family site.---Good laugh.
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Post by bballou on Mar 20, 2011 4:47:26 GMT -5
Does anyone have any idea witch is the better set up the double jaw vs. the lamination.I have an idea but havent had time to prove it. May-be some one has tryed each one and can offer an idea.
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Post by jsevering on Mar 20, 2011 7:58:56 GMT -5
4:47 am on a sunday.... think a lot of it is personal preference... but would like the quarter round/square stock double jaws you and tom have for ascetic purposes mostly for the mink or coon, in a non drowning or shallow water set up.... lamination or double jaw being necessary is another question... 4:47 ;D... jim
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Post by nightstalker1 on Mar 20, 2011 9:38:39 GMT -5
4:47 am on a sunday....... 4:47 ;D... jim LOL
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Post by bballou on Mar 20, 2011 19:43:28 GMT -5
Guys thank you for your concern------You will find---as time goes on ----You have to start early to get things done on the trap line-----It's not like it was when you were young-er---- them beaver dont skin as easy as they did at one time. And its a lot colder in the boat than it was 20 years ago.
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Post by jsevering on Mar 20, 2011 20:11:21 GMT -5
poor.... poor bernie..... letting you play captain again and all... jim
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traps82
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Post by traps82 on Mar 20, 2011 21:26:03 GMT -5
Guys thank you for your concern------You will find---as time goes on ----You have to start early to get things done on the trap line-----It's not like it was when you were young-er---- them beaver dont skin as easy as they did at one time. And its a lot colder in the boat than it was 20 years ago. Does that mean global warming aint real? I have some of those #2s I used this year.. 2 of them.. I got a mink,, It was drowned,... So I will say it done did work real gooder for me... 10:25 PM...
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Post by jsevering on Mar 21, 2011 7:25:44 GMT -5
the laminated and factory jaw traps will take them to the bottom pretty good also.. unless its a dog-less montgomery ... whats your theory or thought bill, behind your experiment or test run on that style double jaw... is part of it the added spacing you have from the top jaw down... know i like the idea of the over sized pan for a certain set im pretty sure you gave thought to also.... thinking regular jaws or outside lamination might be the way to go there, can see the benefit to having the double jaw as you and tom, have them on the trap for other sets... just wondering if im on the right chain of thought... knowing your play box usually has eight sides ;D... jim
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traps82
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Post by traps82 on Mar 21, 2011 9:49:04 GMT -5
the laminated and factory jaw traps will take them to the bottom pretty good also.. unless its a dog-less montgomery ... whats your theory or thought bill, behind your experiment or test run on that style double jaw... is part of it the added spacing you have from the top jaw down... know i like the idea of the over sized pan for a certain set im pretty sure you gave thought to also.... thinking regular jaws or outside lamination might be the way to go there, can see the benefit to having the double jaw as you and tom, have them on the trap for other sets... just wondering if im on the right chain of thought... knowing your play box usually has eight sides ;D... jim 7:25am ;D
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Post by bballou on Mar 21, 2011 20:14:18 GMT -5
Jim you know I like to have people THINK THE ANSWER for them selves----I.M.O. you got to look things over and ---think---In this case---- I think all parts have a big part to play----The bottom lamination ---adds weight and strengthens the trap ----so when you get the extra coyote or fisher and coon----the trap holds up ---same with the bubbled jaws----- now the extra jaw---prevents chew outs---adds weight--- (aids in drowning) and the extra $30 .00 to $80.00 looks a lot better in my pocket than yours--- there are a couple more advantages to this set up ---but rather not go into it now.I think the extra 's to this trap will pay for them selves in a very short time.I had at least 3 coyotes pull out this fall----4 coon 2 fisher and 3 beaver---this fur that pulled out ( of mink traps) would more than cover the cost of the modifications.---- And because these traps are mink traps---jest think of the advantage I am getting with them.( the mink)
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tomsnare
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Post by tomsnare on Mar 22, 2011 18:27:43 GMT -5
I trapped with a guy that used #2 coils with an oversized pan being the only modification, he held coon consistently I think his chain and drag hook up that let the animal get in the brush and think about something other than it's foot, had a lot to do with it. I prefered the #11 for mink and coon my losses were tolerable,if there is such a thing, never liked the #2 coil but thats just me the #2 long I used some but tried to restrict it to deep water the lamination seems like a good idea if the animal might be alive but I would use the #11 if there was a question of a live animal. Guys out here use oversized pans for cats, I rely on fenceing the animal seems to work for me,did the same setting for mink,but Kurt caught as much as I did with those oversize pans the last I knew he had 3or 4hundred rigged up so guess they still work.-Tom
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Post by bballou on Mar 25, 2011 19:56:19 GMT -5
HI TOM: Think we talked about this a few years back----when I bough a couple of barrels of #2 sq. jaws from you at the State Convention. I dont use much if any fencing---but understand what you are saying----Guess we all have our own way of doing things----We do what works for us-----Hope N.M. treating you well---good to here from ya.
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Post by tomsnare on Mar 25, 2011 21:25:03 GMT -5
New Mexico is pretty neat, still trying to get used to no mink!!! Went up to North Dakota for some rat trapping this fall almost wished I had those #2's!!!? That is some really FLAT ground!! I'am always trying new traps and ways to catch critters , but when something really works I tend to stay with it the way some people work over a trap it's like artwork. What really opened my eyes to the shortcomings of some traps was trying to make them work on another species when your two days driving from home. The variety of traps out there today is great to see and I hope it continues and the guys with the welders will keep at it and somebody will come up with something I can't live without!!!!! It's a good time to be a trapper!!---Tom
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Post by bballou on Mar 26, 2011 5:33:47 GMT -5
Tom ---for the short time I have been trapping ----I got to say --- its always been a good time to be a trapper. We as trappers have had out ups and downs but for the most part its been torable.---Lots---and Lots of good times --and a BIG BUNCH of Great PEOPLE. I have been lucky ---always seamed to run into the good people. This perfect trap is hard to find----working on a small animal water trap with a lot of--- Good Help from Tom Stalker---(he has the welder and the knowledge)There are acceptial losses ---but I think we can cut that down with some though----and it dont have to cost a fortune.Ill let you know how we do.Keep a low profile going through the brush---I hear its dangerious out there .
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Post by mospurs on Sept 24, 2013 0:01:19 GMT -5
Just want to comment. These look like 2 very valuable modified traps for the water line. Only thing I would do different is a double jaw would be interesting on the long spring. Also here in missouri you need to make sure the chain will handle otter.
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