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Post by nightstalker1 on Mar 3, 2011 18:30:24 GMT -5
Here's my idea. Start with a #2 double long spring trap add jaw lams add a straight baseplate ( no D ring ) add the OVERSIZE mink pan keep the original chain that's attached to the spring Give me your ideas, opinions, criticisms, etc Pan too big, too small, just right ? Here's a pic to show the pan size - 3" diameter
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Post by Brunner on Mar 3, 2011 18:38:17 GMT -5
Just my opinion, but I don't see where the baseplate is needed for a mink trap. Rest of it sounds like it would be a nice trap.
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Post by bballou on Mar 3, 2011 18:38:37 GMT -5
Good Idea------but would like it better on a sq. jaw #2 coil---- then you would be cooking with wood.---Ill even volunteer the first 4 dozen #2 sq.jaw coils. Of course Ill do the testing---and pay the expences.---Oh yes please bubble the jaw ends -in-case of a larger animal catch.
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Post by nightstalker1 on Mar 3, 2011 18:55:05 GMT -5
Just my opinion, but I don't see where the baseplate is needed for a mink trap. Rest of it sounds like it would be a nice trap. I had two thoughts in mind 1- stiffen the trap in case of a non-target catch 2- add a little weight for drowning set-ups No "new" ideas ...just thought I'd try something different and go a little "old school" with the DLS. Thought the DLS weight would help on a drowning set-up Keep 'em comin' guys Bring them down Bill....I'll make ya happy ;D
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Post by albertburns on Mar 3, 2011 18:56:59 GMT -5
I like the idea, and use quite a few # 2 DLS when trapping Mink. We set a lot of culverts, and have found that for our style of mink trapping , a # 2 Square jaw Victor works the best. We attach 6 foot of 14 Ga. wire and a 5 pound window weight to it. Many of the Mink will be suitcased. The problem we see most is when a coon get's in them,the stock # 2 SJ as it comes out the box is a terrible coon trap, causing way too much damage. If you could make some that are inside laminated to get rid of that sharp edge,add the bigger pan,leave the chain as it comes, plus bubble the jaws, you would have something that would be deadly on mink or the incidental coon.Just my thoughts on it.
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Post by nightstalker1 on Mar 3, 2011 19:05:04 GMT -5
Made these for a famous NY trapper.... ;D Add the BIG pan to something like this ...an old Victor #2 square jaw ??
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Post by bballou on Mar 3, 2011 20:12:22 GMT -5
I think the base plate is a must----not only for coon---and extra--- drowning weight--- but we cough a few coyotes in them this year ---and the results were a broken trap---- I like the idea of the second jaw and bubbled jaw ends ---it will add a lot "OF" the above features to the trap---- the large pan I.M.O. would be the cherry on the cake.---Good idea Tom.
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Post by nyerluvs2trap on Mar 4, 2011 0:12:53 GMT -5
nice work
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Post by artie on Mar 4, 2011 6:32:18 GMT -5
If you baseplate them it might make bedding them on conrete wall tuff. Imo the baseplate would cause it to be a rocky tippy trap for water trapping in gravel streams or wall sets.
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Post by rp3543 on Mar 4, 2011 8:26:09 GMT -5
New guy has a question... (Gonna start trapping again after 25 years, so I'm really an old guy) - "Bubble jaw ends..." What exactly is that? #2 DLS is one of my favorite traps and I've never had one wrecked. I did have a couple of #2 Victor Sq. jaw CS's trashed (I guessed at the time it was by one of the farmers giant barn dogs) Does this mod (bubble jaw) only apply to Coil springs? Love this site! TX Bob
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Post by nyerluvs2trap on Mar 4, 2011 8:57:40 GMT -5
the end of the jaw that goes threw the hole and is bent up to hold the jaws in .the bubble is a weld on the very end that wont allow the jaw to be yanked out. usually by larger animals like coyotes ,coon ,otter,which may be none targeted in most cases. as for your last question any trap with the same jaw design can be bubble tipped with weld.
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Post by RLMcoyote7 on Mar 4, 2011 12:12:04 GMT -5
great idea tom
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Post by Zagman on Mar 4, 2011 12:29:37 GMT -5
Id put some kind of rough finish on them. Like brush laquer or something on them and then toss them in the sand/dirt. Guys do that with this same design for cats and open pan sets out west. It would look like a rock and nice place to step for the target animal.
MZ
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Post by bballou on Mar 4, 2011 13:12:27 GMT -5
artie---- a good pair of pump plyers is all you need---jest bend the cross brace to your liking. ---I think Toms idea of the bigger pan will increase your catch of mink and musk rats by a good number ---- the rest of the improvements will hold enough coyote---fox ---fisher ---otter and beaver to make it ---- a very worth while investment. I know the #2 S.J. isnt concidered much of a trap but with the improvements---I think they will come into there own as a go to trap like the ---1-1/2 coil spring-- with the same improvements.
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Post by nightstalker1 on Mar 4, 2011 16:30:56 GMT -5
If you baseplate them it might make bedding them on conrete wall tuff. Imo the baseplate would cause it to be a rocky tippy trap for water trapping in gravel streams or wall sets. Artie - It's just a flat baseplate for strength and weight. There is no D ring. The chain connection is still at the end of the one long spring. The last two pics of the Vic #2 show a flat baseplate. No D ring....in the Vic #2 case, the chain still connects to the J hook at the end of the frame I don't see how a flat baseplate would make it harder to bed
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Post by artie on Mar 4, 2011 18:28:01 GMT -5
ok im sorry i miss read it
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Post by bballou on Mar 4, 2011 19:58:03 GMT -5
artie ---i also miss -read you ---I though you were talking of the extra thickness of the base plate---- causing the rocking -----Sorry.
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Post by nightstalker1 on Mar 5, 2011 14:50:49 GMT -5
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Post by Itrapny on Mar 5, 2011 14:58:48 GMT -5
Nice looking trap Tom
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Post by brushwolf on Mar 5, 2011 17:04:12 GMT -5
I like it!! Nice work.
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Post by artie on Mar 5, 2011 20:37:12 GMT -5
how much to that for each trap
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Post by fingerlakesfur on Mar 5, 2011 20:46:37 GMT -5
more than a NYSTA membership
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Post by cooper67 on Mar 5, 2011 21:06:00 GMT -5
boy is that a big pan, what are the chances of foot getting caught between the pan & jaw causing problems
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Post by nightstalker1 on Mar 5, 2011 21:31:32 GMT -5
more than a NYSTA membership I guess you'd be surprised Dale ! Pm sent Artie
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Post by yoteguts on Mar 5, 2011 22:41:17 GMT -5
I like it!Another good one Tom.
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