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Post by White Mountain Trappers on Apr 12, 2015 7:01:07 GMT -5
Darin Freeborough's "Animalistics: Woods, Roads and Ridges" DVD
Im trying to learn more about coyote trapping tactics and was wondering if anyone has seen this dvd..... this is mostly, but not all my area, woods with grown in old roads so I thought maybe this might help?
come on Mr. Zagger where is your DVD?....I bet you could put together a winner!
dale
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Post by Zagman on Apr 12, 2015 7:43:56 GMT -5
I bet Jimmy Severing could help you in that regards.....as he traps just that type of terrain, with success.
DVD and me? I don't see that happening anytime soon....but you never know!
I am old school and always thought I'd do a book over a DVD, if I did anything....books are forever and are easy to pick up and read a chapter or two......DVD's take more commitment to sit down and put the thing in a machine and play it.....
Once you see a DVD in its case from 5-10-15 years ago, they just seem "dated"......wheres books seem more timeless to me.
I am over 50 now and therefore think like an old fart!
MZ
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Post by austinp on Apr 12, 2015 8:45:31 GMT -5
Mark, I agree 100%
imo the DVD crowd really wants to be entertained as much as educated. They want to see live trapline footage with lots of catches. That's all well & good, except you have very little time to cover educational material as it is.
I purposely made my muskrat DVD in powerpoint narration rather than online footage for that reason... covering max amount of info in limited time. All of the rat videos I've seen pretty much show the author pulling catches off the sides of houses, floats or maybe some colony traps. What took up two hours of watching film could have been covered in five minutes of book reading.
Actually had some dvd viewers (admitted they watched a borrowed copy, didn't purchase) say that without seeing live trapline footage, how do they know my stuff really works. Silly me, I assumed all those tailgate pictures of muskrats piled up might serve that very purpose of validation.
If I do anything else in the future, it'll probably be updated and expanded books for the species I focus on most... all the reasons Mark noted.
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Post by White Mountain Trappers on Apr 12, 2015 9:19:38 GMT -5
I bet Jimmy Severing could help you in that regards.....as he traps just that type of terrain, with success. DVD and me? I don't see that happening anytime soon....but you never know! I am old school and always thought I'd do a book over a DVD, if I did anything....books are forever and are easy to pick up and read a chapter or two......DVD's take more commitment to sit down and put the thing in a machine and play it..... Once you see a DVD in its case from 5-10-15 years ago, they just seem "dated"......wheres books seem more timeless to me. I am over 50 now and therefore think like an old fart! MZ Thanks Mark, I'll look into the books too. I couldn't find one by Mr. Severing, any you might recommend?
Thanks, Dale
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Post by mikespring on Apr 12, 2015 10:00:06 GMT -5
Send Jim S. clams and lobster and you'll be surprised at the secrets he'll give up
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Post by Zagman on Apr 12, 2015 16:17:56 GMT -5
I bet Jimmy Severing could help you in that regards.....as he traps just that type of terrain, with success. DVD and me? I don't see that happening anytime soon....but you never know! I am old school and always thought I'd do a book over a DVD, if I did anything....books are forever and are easy to pick up and read a chapter or two......DVD's take more commitment to sit down and put the thing in a machine and play it..... Once you see a DVD in its case from 5-10-15 years ago, they just seem "dated"......wheres books seem more timeless to me. I am over 50 now and therefore think like an old fart! MZ Thanks Mark, I'll look into the books too. I couldn't find one by Mr. Severing, any you might recommend?
Thanks, Dale
Bad, sorry if I implied Jim wrote a book....he is a member here (see any threads about otter seasons or fishers season but he is an all-around great trapper par excellence. He catches most of his critters in the woods, including coyotes. If I catch a coyote in the woods, it ended up there on a drag! MZ
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 16:29:58 GMT -5
The heck with Jim, his partner his partner is the brains behind it.
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Post by jsevering on Apr 13, 2015 8:53:17 GMT -5
truth be known.... mike shown me what an otter toilet should really look like, being as cheap as i am, about the only new books i would buy at this point in my life ... would be one from mark or mike... aj is 100 percent correct, ed is the brains of the operation... so that right there should tell you something ... were both in real trouble!!
also agree with mark and austins thoughts on books vrs. dvd's
the best advise i ever got was from my father when i was younger and had no car... pointing out of the living room window.. he told me there are probably two fox on that hillside and two more over there on that one... catch them and in a week or so... they'll be more..
the second best advise i ever heard came from bob wendt... he basically said the woods has the same features and locations as any place else you trap.... you just need to be able to learn, to see through the trees... jim
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Post by White Mountain Trappers on Apr 13, 2015 9:11:04 GMT -5
truth be known.... mike shown me what an otter toilet should really look like, being as cheap as i am, about the only new books i would buy at this point in my life ... would be one from mark or mike... aj is 100 percent correct, ed is the brains of the operation... so that right there should tell you something ... were both in real trouble!! also agree with mark and austins thoughts on books vrs. dvd's the best advise i ever got was from my father when i was younger and had no car... pointing out of the living room window.. he told me there are probably two fox on that hillside and two more over there on that one... catch them and in a week or so... they'll be more.. the second best advise i ever heard came from bob wendt... he basically said the woods has the same features and locations as any place else you trap.... you just need to be able to learn, to see through the trees... jim Thanks Mr. Severing, I truly appreciate any advice I get from you and the folks here. After 3 years trying I finally caught my first 3 coyotes this winter and then the snow came and never left! DEEP. maybe somethings are starting to sink in.
Dale
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Post by Zagman on Apr 13, 2015 15:15:16 GMT -5
I had the good fortune to spend a day with Jim on his mink line.....he and Ed had trapped some farm country way up in northern NY that fall for canines....and while I may be paraphrasing a bit, I remember Jim stating that locations for woods trapping coyotes were easier to find than those in farm country......at least to him!
Which made me feel good since I trap farm country!
MZ
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Post by austinp on Apr 13, 2015 16:27:40 GMT -5
well Dale, you've heard that exact-same things from all of us now. woodland locations are what? roadway intersections, log landings, utility lines, clear-cuts, natural meadows, beaver flows, saddles where two or more ravines bisect... etc. All surrounded by some trees
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Post by mikespring on Apr 13, 2015 16:50:01 GMT -5
And the more subtle features that Jim taught me which I always overlooked before...Where old growth meets newer growth...See Jim I listen!
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Post by austinp on Apr 14, 2015 5:28:15 GMT -5
I cut firewood with Ethan Hall's dad all winter long in the woodlands above their house. Bill is a lifelong outdoorsman but has never set a canine trap in his life. However, in our trips up & down the hill thru last season, he pointed out to me all the key hotspots where Ethan should be setting for coyotes based on tracks in the snow and his prior knowledge of where they travel in the fall - winter thru the woods in general. Listening to him and not saying a word, it occurred to me he has a very solid grasp of key canine locations probably better than many active canine trappers across the country... drawn from hours of study and observation thru years spent in the woods. Our greatest teacher of all out there is actual field experience outside of the trapping seasons
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Post by White Mountain Trappers on Apr 14, 2015 6:04:23 GMT -5
Last year while turkey hunting I had birds gobbling from 3 different directions and all of a sudden the just shut right down. about 15 min. Later a group of 4 coyotes came through just a bit out of range. now that I think about that day I know where they came from and how they left. That little light bulb just lit over my head!!!!
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