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Post by abulldog57 on Nov 21, 2014 19:53:04 GMT -5
hi new to all this trapping stuff. i have read about freeze proofing lures and baits. just wondering the best way to do it and how to do it? is it really needed? i did order some glycerine oil to mix. is that the best? does it come with how much to mix???
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Post by papabear on Nov 25, 2014 19:53:15 GMT -5
Dear Friend, Food grade glycerin will work as an antifreeze, Use about 2 oz glycerin per quart. I personally mix glycerin 50/50 with 100 proof vodka. Besides being a good antifreeze, vodka will give the lure/bait odor lift. The glycerin binds the mixture and keeps the vodka from evaporating to fast during milder temperatures. Regards
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Post by slyfox74 on Dec 5, 2015 23:03:04 GMT -5
I'm no expert bait and lure maker, but the past few years I've been saving good clear beaver fat. I put it in 1 qt. glass jars and sit it on the window sill of my shop behind the woodstove. The heat from the stove melts most of the fat down to liquid form, and I pour that off and mix it with my bait. It doesn't totally make it freeze proof but it won't freeze as easily, and it give an excellent mild odor that mixes with the bait. It's been great for cold weather Fishers and Canines, as well as Mink.
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Post by peltseeker on Dec 6, 2015 9:30:03 GMT -5
Papabear would beaver oil from the sack under the castors work as antifreeze...i have removed a couple and hung them to dry with my castors..the oil is still liquid inside and they havent frozen at all..and on the larger beaver i have caught this season some of these sacks are very large and full with oil...
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Post by papabear on Dec 6, 2015 13:08:53 GMT -5
Dear Friend, I don't think sack oil used primarily with the intent to antifreeze a combination of other materials in a bait would make an effective antifreeze. One of my favorite and most effective concoctions has a healthy dose of beaver sack oil and its calling ability remains effective down to about freezing. I have come to the conclusion that unless a bait is intended for use for prolonged periods during sub freezing temps an antifreeze is not always necessary. I routinely make my baits without antifreeze and will simply add some at the point and time the temps are going to remain below freezing. As I have stated in the past my preference for antifreeze is a mix of glycerin and 100 proof vodka. If the temps reach single digits and below straight vodka is very effective at dispersing bait odors. Regards
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Post by peltseeker on Dec 6, 2015 21:25:48 GMT -5
Is there any use for the sac oil ??
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Post by papabear on Dec 10, 2015 21:37:48 GMT -5
Dear Friend, Beaver sack oil is a very good critter attractor all by itself and has good value as an enhancer when used in baits and lures. An under rated material that in my opinion has as much, if not more value than beaver castor especially in canine, cat and coon concoctions! Regards
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Post by REDNECK on Dec 27, 2015 9:33:29 GMT -5
I cut my casters out and put in the freezer as is any one have pics of what it all looks like I dont know if I got all I needed out of the beaver I know I got the casters but where is the oil sack located
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Post by peltseeker on Dec 29, 2015 11:43:11 GMT -5
The oil sacs are located just under the castors. They are finger shaped and on the bigger beavers can be bigger than your own finger...the oil can be yellowish to grayish.not sure why there is a color variant but after a few days hanging the oil turns clear..was told at one time there was a market for the oil.i wish there was...twenty five beavers so far for me and i have a pound and a half of castors and would have just as much in oil sacs if i saved them all .
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Post by deernutz on Jan 16, 2016 21:19:51 GMT -5
I personally mix glycerin 50/50 with 100 proof vodka.papabear said. How much mixture per 4 oz? thanks papabear
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