I gotta a whole bunch of stop losses that a going to fund this trap LOL
I believe the jaw spread is only 1/16" less than the #3 Montana. Now comes the decision.. And at $137/dozen I know which way I am leaning. And I personally prefer the "forged" offset to the welded lug. Definitely, imo, a must to smooth the edges and the offset corner. One could also inside lam if desired.
I think this #2 will be the trap of the year. I got 6 doz. in stock this week and 4 doz. have been sold with the last 2 are on hold for Mr Nightstalker. Everybody loves them so far. I set a few of them,just to check things out. I may have to add a couple doz. to my own collection for next season.
like verminater71, i was going to invest in some MB's (upgrade from my dukes as i plan on doing a lot more K9 trapping) but after reading this thread sounds like "E.F. HUTTON" says #2 bridgers!!!! gonna get em ordered this week!
Got one in the mail....just can't get past that high pan.
Why would someone design a new trap where, when set, the pan is angled up above the loose jaw?
Heck, they could have done a step down pan like the PIT system to get it lower...
Confused in Cazenovia
I am gonna try to make the stock pan a step down...like the PIT
It might be easier than moving the attachment point to mid-jaw
Tom, that pan seems long enough to put two 90 degree bends in it, lowered the pan AND thereby shortening the length and pulling the tip of the pan away from the loose jaw. Might currently be a little too close for coyotes, fox not so much...
Played with these traps a little more. Took the jaws out and took the grinder to each of the sharp corners of the offset. Then smoothed up the ground spots with a belt sander. I also sanded the top edge and the bottom edge of the jaw face and slightly rounded the by taking away the sharp edge of the sheared offset.
I figured I would try to make these things fire crisply from the night latch notch. First, I loosened the pan assembly bolt and positioned all the way to the end of the slot. The trap actually cannot be set with the pan in this position because the power jaw will hit the end of the pan and not clear it. I had to slightly file the end of the pan notch so the jaw would clear.
With the pan in this position, the pan is level with the jaws when set on the night latch. A little more filing to shorten the night latch notch made the trap fire nice and crisply. The shortened notch, coupled with the radiused edge of the jaw really made the trap fire more consistently.
I checked pan tension. With the stock springs, the trap fired under 1.5 pounds at the end of the pan and just under 2 pounds in the middle of the pan. This was with no added tension on the bolt.
By doing this the tolerances become really tight...and there is not a lot of room for error when filing. When the trap is treated it might make it too "hairy" and the notch/jaw interface may need to be scraped clean.
I think after doing a few this will be quite an easy adjustment to do. Just remember to file a little at a time. If you file too much and have to file the night latch notch deeper again...you will end up with a pan that angles up as there is no more room in the slot to lower the pan.
After doing this, the trap reminds me of how a Jake fires. A bit of pressure is applied...then the pan just "goes".
Last Edit: Feb 10, 2014 18:40:22 GMT -5 by coonduke
hippiedad: Among bushels of older traps, I have a Newhouse bear trap I'd like to know more about and possibly sell. This double longspring is 35 inches long with a jaw spread of 13 inches. Stamped clearly in one spring is : Newhouse, Oneida Community, NY
Jun 18, 2014 12:14:26 GMT -5
billkasten: That newhouse bear trap should have a number on the pan.
Jun 29, 2014 11:58:31 GMT -5
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bucktails: new member. when is the next meeting
Sept 29, 2014 15:14:31 GMT -5
kirkwooder: Cuomo's got to go! Everyone needs to vote this November!
Oct 17, 2014 20:24:45 GMT -5
furnovice: Can anyone tell how to dispatch a fisher caught in a live cage trap? There are no streams close by to drown it.
Oct 19, 2014 18:16:39 GMT -5
1der: looking for some place to have coyote pelt made into a hat.
Oct 23, 2014 20:48:01 GMT -5
andyt: Save our rights Cuomo has to go!!!!!!
Nov 4, 2014 5:55:00 GMT -5
trapperred315: my son lives out near west seneca, anybody will to let him tag along on a weekend day?
Nov 9, 2014 14:00:23 GMT -5
thejerkman: Anybody know when/where there may be another trapper education field class?
Nov 17, 2014 11:41:15 GMT -5
wintertrapper: Thejerkman; you can find the list on the DEC website
Nov 19, 2014 20:01:59 GMT -5
surveyor: I am a predator hunter from the Cairo/Freehold area and would like to give my critters to someone close to where I live. I get a good number of coyotes, red and grey fox and raccoons every year. Most are taken with one well placed shot with a .17 HMR
Dec 12, 2014 14:10:27 GMT -5
peltseeker: give the p
Dec 13, 2014 12:00:21 GMT -5
peltseeker: ooops you want to give the critters ?
Dec 13, 2014 12:01:32 GMT -5
surveyor: I ran into my local Conservation Officer today who gave me the name of a local avid trapper who I talked to and who will take the critters I get. I am all set!
Dec 13, 2014 14:46:02 GMT -5
otter04: if it doesnt work out, im on the otherside of greenville in westerlo. thanks
Dec 14, 2014 3:07:01 GMT -5
surveyor: Will do, thanks!
Dec 16, 2014 7:59:14 GMT -5
bpryslopski: I am looking to buy furs any kind, skinned or not skinned. I am located in Corning N.Y., which is located in the Southern Tier region of the state. I will be willing to travel to you, if the quantity and price is right.[br][br][br][br][br][br]Thanks,[br][br]Brent Pryslopski
Dec 17, 2014 20:57:32 GMT -5