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Post by nightstalker1 on Feb 5, 2014 9:30:37 GMT -5
Got a couple dozen coming to try from Jim D's Southshore Sportsman
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Post by verminater71 on Feb 7, 2014 21:03:02 GMT -5
nightstalker, please let us know what you think of these once you get them in your hands
I was planning on moving up to MB650's this year, maybe I'll try these instead
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Post by nightstalker1 on Feb 8, 2014 7:50:25 GMT -5
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Post by oakhilltrappin on Feb 8, 2014 8:35:24 GMT -5
Got a dozen in the mail 2 days ago...First impressions, I love them !! Gonna try and get a few in the ground this afternoon....we will have to see !!
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Post by nightstalker1 on Feb 8, 2014 9:10:45 GMT -5
Look forward to your field experiences
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Post by verminater71 on Feb 8, 2014 9:13:39 GMT -5
thanks guys, I think I will buy these instead of the 650's
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Post by traps82 on Feb 8, 2014 11:34:53 GMT -5
I gotta a whole bunch of stop losses that a going to fund this trap LOL
I believe the jaw spread is only 1/16" less than the #3 Montana. Now comes the decision.. And at $137/dozen I know which way I am leaning. And I personally prefer the "forged" offset to the welded lug. Definitely, imo, a must to smooth the edges and the offset corner. One could also inside lam if desired.
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Post by jimd on Feb 8, 2014 11:54:20 GMT -5
I think this #2 will be the trap of the year. I got 6 doz. in stock this week and 4 doz. have been sold with the last 2 are on hold for Mr Nightstalker. Everybody loves them so far. I set a few of them,just to check things out. I may have to add a couple doz. to my own collection for next season.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2014 12:10:07 GMT -5
What's the steel like on the new trap? Is it heavy like the original bridgers
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Post by nightstalker1 on Feb 8, 2014 12:21:01 GMT -5
I have the #3 dogless and they are the same as the old bridger...heavy, well-built
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Post by jimd on Feb 8, 2014 13:40:54 GMT -5
the #2s are exact copies of the #3 dogless. I'm impressed and I'm very picky about trap quality.
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Post by puppyd on Feb 8, 2014 20:16:28 GMT -5
do you guys think they'll make these with closed jaws?
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Post by kristen on Feb 9, 2014 10:14:45 GMT -5
That trap is sexy ! Will be acquiring a couple dozen for next season!
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Post by nightstalker1 on Feb 9, 2014 11:42:37 GMT -5
do you guys think they'll make these with closed jaws? The Cavens usually cover all their bases...my guess is a dogless regular jaw Bridger #2 is soon to follow
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Post by silverfox on Feb 9, 2014 12:19:28 GMT -5
like verminater71, i was going to invest in some MB's (upgrade from my dukes as i plan on doing a lot more K9 trapping) but after reading this thread sounds like "E.F. HUTTON" says #2 bridgers!!!! gonna get em ordered this week!
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Post by mikespring on Feb 9, 2014 13:01:20 GMT -5
Are the jaws on this trap (offsets) sharp like on the older style #2 bridgers???
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Post by puppyd on Feb 9, 2014 13:24:11 GMT -5
do you guys think they'll make these with closed jaws? The Cavens usually cover all their bases...my guess is a dogless regular jaw Bridger #2 is soon to follow thanks Tom
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Post by coonduke on Feb 9, 2014 14:10:47 GMT -5
Are the jaws on this trap (offsets) sharp like on the older style #2 bridgers??? Yes, they need some work.
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Post by mikespring on Feb 9, 2014 14:16:49 GMT -5
Thank you Todd!
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Post by Zagman on Feb 9, 2014 17:41:17 GMT -5
Got one in the mail....just can't get past that high pan.
Why would someone design a new trap where, when set, the pan is angled up above the loose jaw?
Heck, they could have done a step down pan like the PIT system to get it lower...
Confused in Cazenovia
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Post by nightstalker1 on Feb 9, 2014 18:01:51 GMT -5
Got one in the mail....just can't get past that high pan. Why would someone design a new trap where, when set, the pan is angled up above the loose jaw? Heck, they could have done a step down pan like the PIT system to get it lower... Confused in Cazenovia I am gonna try to make the stock pan a step down...like the PIT It might be easier than moving the attachment point to mid-jaw
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Post by jimd on Feb 9, 2014 18:57:37 GMT -5
Mark, the pan can be adjusted down to make it level. Loosen the nut/bolt and tap the pan assembly til its where you want it.
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Post by Zagman on Feb 9, 2014 19:09:49 GMT -5
Sorry, Jim..shoulda been more clear.
I get that, and did it on the #3's I got from you.
Maybe a step down pan will get it where I want it....vs. the pan being in a straight line with the pan/jaw hookup, and therefore, even with the top of the jaws....
MZ
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Post by Zagman on Feb 9, 2014 19:42:30 GMT -5
Got one in the mail....just can't get past that high pan. Why would someone design a new trap where, when set, the pan is angled up above the loose jaw? Heck, they could have done a step down pan like the PIT system to get it lower... Confused in Cazenovia I am gonna try to make the stock pan a step down...like the PIT It might be easier than moving the attachment point to mid-jaw Tom, that pan seems long enough to put two 90 degree bends in it, lowered the pan AND thereby shortening the length and pulling the tip of the pan away from the loose jaw. Might currently be a little too close for coyotes, fox not so much... Good idea...I hope you do it. MZ
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Post by coonduke on Feb 10, 2014 18:29:31 GMT -5
Played with these traps a little more. Took the jaws out and took the grinder to each of the sharp corners of the offset. Then smoothed up the ground spots with a belt sander. I also sanded the top edge and the bottom edge of the jaw face and slightly rounded the by taking away the sharp edge of the sheared offset.
I figured I would try to make these things fire crisply from the night latch notch. First, I loosened the pan assembly bolt and positioned all the way to the end of the slot. The trap actually cannot be set with the pan in this position because the power jaw will hit the end of the pan and not clear it. I had to slightly file the end of the pan notch so the jaw would clear.
With the pan in this position, the pan is level with the jaws when set on the night latch. A little more filing to shorten the night latch notch made the trap fire nice and crisply. The shortened notch, coupled with the radiused edge of the jaw really made the trap fire more consistently.
I checked pan tension. With the stock springs, the trap fired under 1.5 pounds at the end of the pan and just under 2 pounds in the middle of the pan. This was with no added tension on the bolt.
By doing this the tolerances become really tight...and there is not a lot of room for error when filing. When the trap is treated it might make it too "hairy" and the notch/jaw interface may need to be scraped clean.
I think after doing a few this will be quite an easy adjustment to do. Just remember to file a little at a time. If you file too much and have to file the night latch notch deeper again...you will end up with a pan that angles up as there is no more room in the slot to lower the pan.
After doing this, the trap reminds me of how a Jake fires. A bit of pressure is applied...then the pan just "goes".
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