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Post by twotrappers on May 27, 2012 3:53:26 GMT -5
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Post by Itrapny on May 27, 2012 6:26:02 GMT -5
With no Assembly Companion Bill all the letters in the world to the Senate won't help....to make this work, we need to find an Assembly sponser
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Post by twotrappers on May 27, 2012 12:50:31 GMT -5
With no Assembly Companion Bill all the letters in the world to the Senate won't help....to make this work, we need to find an Assembly sponser Marc Butler?
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Post by Itrapny on May 27, 2012 17:33:07 GMT -5
I would think Assemblman Magee would be a good one to try and get, he's the sponsor on the snapping turtle regulation change
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Post by twotrappers on Jun 2, 2012 5:58:44 GMT -5
Somebody posted on another board that the NRA is sending out an alert about S-6968. Its great that some of the larger pro-hunting lobbys are acknowledging NY's Dove Bill... But it is local sportsmen at the grassroots level that have the ability to make this happen... The key is that interested hunters educate themselves about this issue, stay updated, and write letters throughout the entire process. We have create an online presence to interest, organize,educate, update, and mobilize sportsmen. I urge everyone who is interested in a dove season to read the info posted on this and other boards, and to follow our facebook page. Ask other interested hunters to do the same. We need to get those letters in to the senate en-con committee. We also need to write the assembly and get somebody to sponsor a companion bill in the assembly branch. Its also not to early to let the DEC you are interested in a dove season. The DEC has been banding doves to help the USFWS manage them since 2009. DEC staff under went training for this and there are already DEC staff responsible for the dove project. There are tenative plans for every state; including non-hunting states, to develop a permenant dove banding program. Information about this is on our facebook page.
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Post by twotrappers on Jun 27, 2012 5:57:35 GMT -5
Seven Ways NY Dove Hunting Facebook helps hunters be Responsive > Understand the issues, laws, policies, statistics, biology, and social science (human dimensions). > Understand the modus operandi the anti-hunting lobby has used against dove hunting in several other states in the last ten years. > Information and contact information at your finger-tips to use for letter writing, public comment, or at stakeholder’s hearings > Keep updated as the situation evolves > Contribute your own knowledge, opinions, and personal experience to assist > Log in and reply to online news about dove hunting legislation much faster by using your FB account to log in then copy & paste off NY Dove Hunting. > Organize and network with other hunters by recommending the page and posting links to the page on sportsmen’s forums www.facebook.com/pages/NY-Dove-Hunting/365031743546569
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Post by twotrappers on Jul 2, 2012 17:55:29 GMT -5
July 2012 Update on s-6968 open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/s6968-2011 The following was told to me on July 2, 2012 by a representative of John Di Francisco’s office. John Di Francisco is the sponsor of this bill. The bill was requested by a sportsman named Fred Neff who lives in Baldwinsville. The “regular” legislative session ended in June and “special sessions” ordered by the governor will continue. Obviously this bill is not on the agenda for any “special sessions.” The bill will have to be reintroduced in January and it is not certain whether it will be. If it is, it would not have to be reintroduced again (assuming it does not pass) until January 2015. I was clearly told that letters or e-mails in support will influence the decision to reintroduce this bill. So if you want to hunt doves in NY or support it, contact his office jdefranc@nysenate.gov and ask that s-6968 is reintroduced. Do not wait until the fall. Contact his office as soon as possible and then one or two more times before Thanksgiving. The person I spoke to could not speculate as to why the bill did not move in the senate environmental conservation committee. I was informed that there are a variety of reasons and that the committee chairman (Grisanti) grisanti@nysenate.gov decides on whether or when to process a bill. We also need to contact Grisanti and the other members of the en-con committee: ojohnson@nysenate.gov avella@nysenate.gov espailla@nysenate.gov lavalle@nysenate.gov little@nysenate.gov marcelli@senate.state.ny.us maziarz@nysenate.gov omara@nysenate.gov oppenhei@senate.state.ny.us perkins@senate.state.ny.us serrano@senate.state.ny.us scousins@senate.state.ny.us cyoung@senate.state.ny.us Ask Grisanti to move the bill when it is reintroduced and the other committee members to support it. I was also told that the senate does not always pursue an assembly sponsor and I assume the vice-versa is also true. Therefore it is necessary that individual sportsman contact members of the assembly assembly.state.ny.us/mem/ and ask them to sponsor a companion bill to s-6968. On July 2, 2012 I spoke to Assemblyman Magee’s office assembly.state.ny.us/mem/?ad=111 and was told that “he is seriously considering introducing a companion bill in January”. It is wise to contact Magee, your assembly district rep, and the other assembly members. For continued updates subscribe to our Facebook: www.facebook.com/pages/NY-Dove-Hunting/365031743546569 Please Forward and Cross-Post this message!
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Post by twotrappers on Jul 4, 2012 7:05:29 GMT -5
Second Update July 4, 2012 I spoke to a legislative aid in Senator Grisanti’s office on July 3, 2012. Grisanti is the chairman of the SECC. I was told that although the dove bill was not prioritized mainly because it lacked an assembly companion bill; that the response in support was not compelling because the most common argument used by hunters did not strike a chord with the senate. I was told that most supportive letters argued that 40 other states do allow dove hunting. According to the person I spoke with, the senate does not feel that is a strong justification. The letters by opposers where the stock anti-dove hunting arguments which we posted on Facebook and on sportsmen’s online forums. The (3) most common where: 1. Doves are not edible 2. Doves are not overpopulated and not a nuisance species, so why hunt them? 3. The concern over the use of lead shot In the future keep this in mind when communicating with politicians about dove hunting. Our FB page addresses all of the above. We have also discouraged hunters from justifying any form of hunting with overpopulation and nuisance species arguments. We also discourage hunters from opposing restrictions on lead shotgun ammunition and stress that this is one compromise we can live with rather than forfeit a dove season.
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Post by twotrappers on Aug 10, 2012 7:40:57 GMT -5
As explained on our F.B. page a nationwide dove management initiative implemented in 2008 has implemented a banding program in all states, including states that do not allow dove hunting. Wildlife agencies have utilized volunteers for banding and other projects for many years. While sportsmen will stock trout and sometimes band waterfowl, the volunteers that assist in non-game projects are generally non-hunters, some of them anti-hunters. To compound the matter more; colleges and universities have identified a trend such that very few wildlife students have ever hunted. The problem is so profound that the University of Davis California includes a waterfowl hunting trip in its curriculum. The state of New Jersey is basing its dove banding operation out of The Great Swamp National Wildlife Refuge. A logical location were federal wildlife workers are based. This NWR however is notorious for the decades old annual deer hunt protest. Dove hunting is one of the most vehemently opposed forms of hunting and Jersey does not allow dove hunting. Jersey is the most urbanized state and has a strong anti-hunting lobby. Federal and state wildlife agencies are also about getting the public close to nature, so to speak. In conjunction with banding, the refuge in Jersey invited the public to “release a dove”. We are not opposed to this ideologically; however the reality of the matter is that it will exacerbate anti -hunting sentiments and will overshadow and eventually undermine the longstanding efforts by sportsmen to assist wildlife agencies with both research and funding. As hunter’s numbers continue to decrease, (which they will in spite of stepped up recruitment efforts) wildlife agencies WILL seek stakeholders other than hunters to finance conservation – white-washing the number one defense of hunting and reducing the voice and influence of hunters. It is important that sportsmen and in particular organizations, especially those with much influence, keep track of both the volunteer opportunities and the interpretive learning programs regarding non-game species and be sure some of us are active in every project or interpretive venue. Article: www.fws.gov/fieldnotes/regmap.cfm?arskey=32374&callingKey=region&callingValue=5Please Electronically Distribute and Cross Post this information.
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Post by twotrappers on Aug 22, 2012 15:44:01 GMT -5
September 1 marks the single busiest day of the year for the nation’s wingshooters. More Americans swing a gun on that day—the dove season opener—than any other, including 250,000 in Texas alone. Now even more of us can take to the field, thanks to new dove seasons in states like Iowa, Wisconsin, and Ohio.
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